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RE: All of that, Continued. - symptom maddox - 04-22-2024
how i feel after being the start and source of it all
but being serious, i am truly sorry for what i did. I guess my mind and heart wasn't in the right place at the time. I'm not asking to be forgiven for everything i did. I just really didn't think battons would do anything like that.
Thoughts and prayers to everyone
RE: All of that, Continued. - tiefling lesbian - 04-22-2024
(04-22-2024, 03:19 PM)symptom maddox Wrote: I just really didn't think battons would do anything like that.To clarify, battons' ban was not because of what was posted on the forums, which only showed behavior that was creepy and not what he was accused of afterward. The further evidence we received is unrelated.
RE: All of that, Continued. - symptom maddox - 04-22-2024
(04-22-2024, 04:11 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:sorry i just feel shitty after all this shit(04-22-2024, 03:19 PM)symptom maddox Wrote: I just really didn't think battons would do anything like that.To clarify, battons' ban was not because of what was posted on the forums, which only showed behavior that was creepy and not what he was accused of afterward. The further evidence we received is unrelated.
RE: All of that, Continued. - BillyBob - 04-22-2024
I don't really understand how all of this "additional evidence" keeps being talked about, but yet Battons, Jack, etc aren't being given further elaboration in an attempt to defend themselves. If it was bad enough actions then clearly these players would have been community banned, so this is leading me to believe this ban is revolving around how they have made people "feel" as opposed to what they have done. (Also, with this I am not saying those who have come forward should be outed if they wish to keep anon, but there certainly should be a way to explain further to the parties involved what further wrongdoing they conducted, in the very least so that they can understand how it was wrong and fix the behavior).
If you say hello to a person that sees you as "creepy", and you make them "uncomfortable", to make one thing straight you are not responsible for making that person feel that way if they have not directly told you to please not interact with them, message them, etc etc. And with how the admins have danced around what these two have done, this is my take away as to why they have been banned. Again, due to the admins not elaborating, I could certainly be wrong. But, if that is the case I see no reason why this wouldn't be a full community ban for these two.
I also have to question why others who participated in the discord "arguments" are not listed as banned here also. Seems like one main person took a fall while the others who were enabling it were let off, despite some of them already having several warnings for previous actions.
In the end I just think the players involved deserve more transparency as to why they were banned, and personally I think more of those involved in the drama should receive punishment that haven't.
RE: All of that, Continued. - 茶 Tea - 04-22-2024
(04-22-2024, 04:55 PM)BillyBob Wrote: I don't really understand how all of this "additional evidence" keeps being talked about, but yet Battons, Jack, etc aren't being given further elaboration in an attempt to defend themselves. If it was bad enough actions then clearly these players would have been community banned, so this is leading me to believe this ban is revolving around how they have made people "feel" as opposed to what they have done. (Also, with this I am not saying those who have come forward should be outed if they wish to keep anon, but there certainly should be a way to explain further to the parties involved what further wrongdoing they conducted, in the very least so that they can understand how it was wrong and fix the behavior).tldr
If you say hello to a person that sees you as "creepy", and you make them "uncomfortable", to make one thing straight you are not responsible for making that person feel that way if they have not directly told you to please not interact with them, message them, etc etc. And with how the admins have danced around what these two have done, this is my take away as to why they have been banned. Again, due to the admins not elaborating, I could certainly be wrong. But, if that is the case I see no reason why this wouldn't be a full community ban for these two.
I also have to question why others who participated in the discord "arguments" are not listed as banned here also. Seems like one main person took a fall while the others who were enabling it were let off, despite some of them already having several warnings for previous actions.
In the end I just think the players involved deserve more transparency as to why they were banned, and personally I think more of those involved in the drama should receive punishment that haven't.
RE: All of that, Continued. - ⚡Nash - 04-22-2024
Damn these bans are rough. You hate to see it. I enjoyed playing with these guys on TTT. If you see this Battons after 04/24, happy b day.
RE: All of that, Continued. - RussEfarmer - 04-22-2024
ok i've been holding off on asking because I might get dunked on but im gonna be that guy and ask if there is some more elaboration available for some of these bans, not to be on the "muh staff transparency!!!" type shit like some people do but im kind of a moron and feel a little confused on this whole thing
serious post btw, I went back and read some stuff and yeah some of these make sense, but I feel super out of the loop, im pretty stupid but I gotta be missing something big
if nothing else is disclosable then thats how it is idc
RE: All of that, Continued. - BillyBob - 04-22-2024
(04-22-2024, 05:57 PM)茶 Tea Wrote: tldr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ghSziUQnhs
also thank u admin for downvoting me for just askin u to explain more very epic
RE: All of that, Continued. - tiefling lesbian - 04-22-2024
J@ck and battons' bans were for patterns of inappropriate behaviors toward women based on multiple pieces of evidence. Both of them have spoken to an admin about it. The nature of the bans was decided after several discussions among the admins. Further details will not be disclosed at this time to respect the privacy of those affected.
RE: All of that, Continued. - BillyBob - 04-22-2024
(04-22-2024, 07:42 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote: J@ck and battons' bans were for patterns of inappropriate behaviors toward women based on multiple pieces of evidence. Both of them have spoken to an admin about it. The nature of the bans was decided after several discussions among the admins. Further details will not be disclosed at this time to respect the privacy of those affected.
this is a nothing burger and just repeating what you've said before. i'll refer to my first post stating that if these "patterns of inappropriate behavior" were legitimately inappropriate they would be community banned, in the same realm of previous members of this community.
i cant understand how it wasn't bad enough to only temporarily be banned, hence it makes me think these "patterns" were simply them making people uncomfortable even though they were not told directly to be left alone.
Also, how old is this evidence? Are we talking a year, two years, three years??? I think some time has context to this.
just a lot of buzz words being thrown around right now tbh