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What - lacer - 05-22-2019
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What the fuck is this?
I thought the whole point of slaying people was to teach them not to RDM, and the 2 slays for the aforementioned offenses were to give the player being slayed a chance to think about their actions. Dink, you're literally giving these people who are intentionally ruining the game for others a slap on the wrist as a punishment. Nobody benefits from this except the person who commits the offense in the first place.
^ That's my opinion btw, I want to hear the rest of the community's thoughts on this rule change. I personally think it is ridiculous and unnecessary.
RE: What - Dildo Shwaggins - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 08:19 PM)Trickboy Master Wrote:
What the fuck is this?
I thought the whole point of slaying people was to teach them not to RDM, and the 2 slays for the aforementioned offenses were to give the player being slayed a chance to think about their actions. Dink, you're literally giving these people who are intentionally ruining the game for others a slap on the wrist as a punishment. Nobody benefits from this except the person who commits the offense in the first place.
^ That's my opinion btw, I want to hear the rest of the community's thoughts on this rule change. I personally think it is ridiculous and unnecessary.
As someone who is still a mod, I agree completely. Revenge RDM can be hard to prove unless they admit to it so I guess I don't really care about that one but I completely disagree with intentional T on T RDM being only 1 slay now. Also, I could be a smartass and say 1 report=1 slay means if I report twice for the same RDM does that mean 2 reports=2 slays but still. This should have stayed as is beforehand.
RE: What - matt_st3 (Strongrule) - 05-22-2019
Revenge rdm should have had clear proof before a second slay was added
And TonT imo should stay as that’s a lot more obvious than the first but idk
RE: What - Gabe - 05-22-2019
My 2 cents:
I personally agree, I have made it clear that i still feel like people that revenge rdm or do intentional t on t rdm should get two based on malice and the intent to kill without justification, they obviously are doing it to get a reaction or just troll. It's also been enforced this way for the past 2 years or more, so I don't see a reason to change completely now. But it's Dink's server so it's his rules and I respect that and his decision.
Note: Revenge RDM can be hard to determine and needs clear proof it was revenge rdm. Revenge RDM can result from anger against a certain player and that clear distinction can be hard to determine from some petty RDM. A clean cut example could be a person gets slayed for a report so they kill the person that reported them the next round when they are unslain. I don't care as much about revenge rdm getting changed as compared to intentional T on T RDM.
I know why it was changed and what lead to the change but I don't want to twist Dink's words, he will be posting an announcement later regarding this change, so stay tuned.
RE: What - lacer - 05-22-2019
-1's for my opinion from someone who has a personal vendetta against me :thonking:
If you're gonna dislike my post at least give your opinion lol
edit: grow up lmao
RE: What - DoYouLiftBro - 05-22-2019
Ok, from what I've heard. Revenge rdm wasn't even 2 slays. It was a rule that did not exist.
The intentional T on T rdm was 2 slays, and are now 1 slay. I honestly dont think its made out to be such a big deal as others are making it out to be
Yeah sure, 2 slays serve a bigger purpose in teaching someone a lesson, but in the long run, people that continue to rdm/get slain will be banned and wont be a problem any longer.
PROPOSAL: I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not but how about we warn players who commit blatant T on T rdm and Revenge RDM whilst also adding a slay to that person(s). I think that could compensate for the removal of the 2 slays from T on T rdm, while also enforcing that revenge RDM is not allowed (more serious then just common RDM).
RE: What - lacer - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 09:20 PM)DoYouLiftBro Wrote: Ok, from what I've heard. Revenge rdm wasn't even 2 slays. It was a rule that did not exist.
Revenge RDM has been 2 slays for a while now. I can't say whether it was a written rule or not, but regardless, that's the guideline the staff followed for 2+ years. Why do an instant switch now and blindside the staff?
RE: What - DoYouLiftBro - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 09:24 PM)Trickboy Master Wrote:I mean it is a "guideline", no rule had been officially put in place to specify that "hey, revenge RDM is 2 slays". I do think that after all these years of having it as a guideline (It was enforced even back when I was a mod in 2015), there could be some clarity as to why all of a sudden that guideline is being unenforced, but I guess we will find that out when Dink posts his announcement on the change.(05-22-2019, 09:20 PM)DoYouLiftBro Wrote: Ok, from what I've heard. Revenge rdm wasn't even 2 slays. It was a rule that did not exist.
Revenge RDM has been 2 slays for a while now. I can't say whether it was a written rule or not, but regardless, that's the guideline the staff followed for 2+ years. Why do an instant switch now and blindside the staff?
This is my opinion though: The difference between 1 and 2 slays is minimal at best. If someone were to intentionally T on T rdm, they get slain 2 rounds, and go right back to causing trouble. If they get slain one time, they go back to causing trouble.
I know that your argument is that dink does things to blindside staff (w/o warning, etc..). I agree somethings he adds w/o our knowledge can be sketch, but this rule change isnt as big as it is made out to be, and we should not be enraged at something like this.
RE: What - queef commando - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 09:24 PM)Trickboy Master Wrote:(05-22-2019, 09:20 PM)DoYouLiftBro Wrote: Ok, from what I've heard. Revenge rdm wasn't even 2 slays. It was a rule that did not exist.
Revenge RDM has been 2 slays for a while now. I can't say whether it was a written rule or not, but regardless, that's the guideline the staff followed for 2+ years. Why do an instant switch now and blindside the staff?
The rule existed and was written in the motd since I was mod and made the first staff guideline in early 2016.
RE: What - lacer - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 09:39 PM)DoYouLiftBro Wrote:(05-22-2019, 09:24 PM)Trickboy Master Wrote:I know that your argument is that dink does things to blindside staff (w/o warning, etc..). I agree somethings he adds w/o our knowledge can be sketch, but this rule change isnt as big as it is made out to be, and we should not be enraged at something like this.(05-22-2019, 09:20 PM)DoYouLiftBro Wrote: Ok, from what I've heard. Revenge rdm wasn't even 2 slays. It was a rule that did not exist.
Revenge RDM has been 2 slays for a while now. I can't say whether it was a written rule or not, but regardless, that's the guideline the staff followed for 2+ years. Why do an instant switch now and blindside the staff?
My argument isn't that Dink does things to blindside the staff, my argument is that the new rule is unnecessary. I won't deny that Dink does blindside the staff with stuff sometimes (this being one of them) but that's not my main point in this thread.