[snak]

Offender's Name: daegenislegit

Offender's SteamID: STEAM_0:1:192823087

Offender's Rank:  Trial mod

What They Did:  False slay, I won't use names, but a detective got DNA off a innocent body, then proceeded to kill the person he had DNA on, this person WAS the traitor. The traitor said the reason he killed the guy was because he attempted to RDM him, so the detective was then SLAYED by daegen. I argued that there was no reason for this person to be slayed, as anyone can claim they were "being rdm'd" and in this case the person WAS a traitor.

I understand dagen's thought process on trying to justify it, but the one and only person who should be recieiving punishment is the person that started the RDM, not the innocent minded player who got DNA off a dead inno and that person happened to be an rdmer

When They Did It: 7:25 PM PST oct26

Potential Witnesses: Ikapoc"            STEAM_0:1:59299773  25:28      126    0 active

#    271 "Zinx"              STEAM_0:0:40562341  31:40       77    0 active

#    285 "Figurative Garbage, Esq." STEAM_0:0:58767696 18:06  115    0 active

#    256 "Majin Buu™"      STEAM_0:1:80701416   1:17:15   155    0 active

#    258 "Revolusean"        STEAM_0:1:56383869   1:00:40    69    0 active

#    270 "✪ Tupack"        STEAM_0:1:45331471  34:15       89    0 active

#    233 "Caddy"             STEAM_0:1:33750748   1:55:21    99    0 active

#    127 "Benkach99"         STEAM_0:0:121467682  6:32:21    98    0 active

#    221 "Herp"              STEAM_0:1:35675771   2:21:15    74    0 active

#    284 "loading."          STEAM_0:0:10144719  19:15       72    0 active

#    274 "inferno"           STEAM_0:1:35957131  26:57       68    0 active

#    264 "daeganislegit"     STEAM_0:1:192823087 43:51       73    0 active

#    265 "null_e0"           STEAM_0:1:37678661  42:44       65    0 active

#    178 "Evee"              STEAM_0:0:195441188  4:31:13   100    0 active

#    226 "TheGreenMan207"    STEAM_0:1:63414882   2:15:23    68    0 active

#    227 "Stiffler's Mom"    STEAM_0:1:172738985  2:13:09    76    0 active

#    288 "yungtigerbutter"   STEAM_0:1:67499851  14:18       98    0 active

#    290 "Derp"              STEAM_0:0:97214075  09:09       68    0 active

#    266 "gomen"             STEAM_0:0:34620850  42:36       71    0 active

#    291 "Q"                 STEAM_0:1:104918718 06:06       84    0 active

#    277 "windyme"           STEAM_0:0:116777129 23:50      102    0 active

#    278 "jackster23"        STEAM_0:1:52314400  22:29      161    0 active

#    279 "Sheldor, der Eroberer" STEAM_0:1:60516805 22:24   158    0 active

#    280 "Nico Di Angelo"    STEAM_0:0:73005442  21:56       52    0 active

#    293 "Lanzoran"          STEAM_0:1:53919099  03:41      582    0 active

#    282 "Cecil"             STEAM_0:0:62780410  20:45       78    0 active

#    283 "underworlda2"      STEAM_0:1:49396787  19:59      152    0 active

#    287 "SNAK THE RIPPER"   STEAM_0:0:16445901  15:05      132    0 active


Proof:  He admit's himself he has slayed for this before.

Other: I don't want him removed as staff cause having staff greatly secures the server, I just  wish for him to be asked to maybe ask a higher up for advice rather then ruining someones round. Thank you for your time!

[daeganislegit]

that's not proof you need vids and photos

[dero]

Ay lmao

[snak]

that's not proof you need vids and photos

well anyone on that list can confirm it, the fact that you won't accept you made a mistake and apologize and instead  going straight for "proof or get out" worries me that maybe you aren't mature enough to be a person in power..

[dong]

Makes a report but doesn't want a demotion, makes sense

[dero]

Lmao that’s literally only sussable not kosable

[snak]

Makes a report but doesn't want a demotion, makes sense

people make mistakes, I don't believe anyone should be punished that harshly for doing something they thought was justifed, I use to be head admin for spacecats TTT.rules were followed strictly by all staff, I enforced it as such. People make mistakes though, thats just life

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Lmao that’s literally only sussable not kosable

You should really learn the rules of the server before speaking falsely.


Reasons to call a Kill-on-Sight(KOS):

The below lists of reasons to KOS and sus are for reference, and cover the most common issues. However, these are not complete lists and do not necessarily cover all edge cases. If anything comes up that is not covered by what is shown below, it is to be handled at staff discretion. Killing someone who called a legitimate kos based on the below reasons may yield a slay.

•  Killing Detectives, except when they are RDMing
  
  
•  Throwing incendiary grenades near non-kosed players
  
  
•  Entering traitor room while unproven
  
  
•  Calling a KOS on someone who is proven Innocent and not a Detective
  
  
•  Throwing discombobulators such that they can push people off ledges, causing damage
  
  
•  Prop killing
  
  
•  Causing damage by falling onto players
  
  
•  Damaging a destructible tester or health station
  
  
•  Destroying the map tester, even preround
  
  
•  Breaking a bridge with players on it such that it causes damage
  
  
•  Killing or injuring someone with explosive barrels
  
  
•  Holding explosive barrels near players
  
  
•  Activating traps with the intent to kill someone (ex. Traps on Trappycottage & Richland)
  
  
•  Having DNA of an Innocent or Detective on you 1
  

[Avi]

Makes a report but doesn't want a demotion, makes sense

people make mistakes, I don't believe anyone should be punished that harshly for doing something they thought was justifed, I use to be head admin for spacecats TTT.rules were followed strictly by all staff, I enforced it as such. People make mistakes though, thats just life

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Lmao that’s literally only sussable not kosable

You should really learn the rules of the server before speaking falsely.


Reasons to call a Kill-on-Sight(KOS):

The below lists of reasons to KOS and sus are for reference, and cover the most common issues. However, these are not complete lists and do not necessarily cover all edge cases. If anything comes up that is not covered by what is shown below, it is to be handled at staff discretion. Killing someone who called a legitimate kos based on the below reasons may yield a slay.

•  Killing Detectives, except when they are RDMing
  
  
•  Throwing incendiary grenades near non-kosed players
  
  
•  Entering traitor room while unproven
  
  
•  Calling a KOS on someone who is proven Innocent and not a Detective
  
  
•  Throwing discombobulators such that they can push people off ledges, causing damage
  
  
•  Prop killing
  
  
•  Causing damage by falling onto players
  
  
•  Damaging a destructible tester or health station
  
  
•  Destroying the map tester, even preround
  
  
•  Breaking a bridge with players on it such that it causes damage
  
  
•  Killing or injuring someone with explosive barrels
  
  
•  Holding explosive barrels near players
  
  
•  Activating traps with the intent to kill someone (ex. Traps on Trappycottage & Richland)
  
  
•  Having DNA of an Innocent or Detective on you 1
  

I think you missed the 1 in italics that leads you to exceptions:
1. Unless the Detective or innocent was RDMing

Now, do you have screenshots of logs, video, or can someone get those or the map/round/time so someone can find those? That way this can get cleared up.

[snak]

Makes a report but doesn't want a demotion, makes sense

people make mistakes, I don't believe anyone should be punished that harshly for doing something they thought was justifed, I use to be head admin for spacecats TTT.rules were followed strictly by all staff, I enforced it as such. People make mistakes though, thats just life

---

Lmao that’s literally only sussable not kosable

You should really learn the rules of the server before speaking falsely.


Reasons to call a Kill-on-Sight(KOS):

The below lists of reasons to KOS and sus are for reference, and cover the most common issues. However, these are not complete lists and do not necessarily cover all edge cases. If anything comes up that is not covered by what is shown below, it is to be handled at staff discretion. Killing someone who called a legitimate kos based on the below reasons may yield a slay.

•  Killing Detectives, except when they are RDMing
  
  
•  Throwing incendiary grenades near non-kosed players
  
  
•  Entering traitor room while unproven
  
  
•  Calling a KOS on someone who is proven Innocent and not a Detective
  
  
•  Throwing discombobulators such that they can push people off ledges, causing damage
  
  
•  Prop killing
  
  
•  Causing damage by falling onto players
  
  
•  Damaging a destructible tester or health station
  
  
•  Destroying the map tester, even preround
  
  
•  Breaking a bridge with players on it such that it causes damage
  
  
•  Killing or injuring someone with explosive barrels
  
  
•  Holding explosive barrels near players
  
  
•  Activating traps with the intent to kill someone (ex. Traps on Trappycottage & Richland)
  
  
•  Having DNA of an Innocent or Detective on you 1
  

I think you missed the 1 in italics that leads you to exceptions:
1. Unless the Detective or innocent was RDMing

Now, do you have screenshots of logs, video, or can someone get those or the map/round/time so someone can find those? That way this can get cleared up.

Well now I'm super confused, this is nothing but a highly exploitable loophole. Traitor's are allowed to call false kos's, and they are defintely allowed to lie, how is someone suppose to know that someone was rdming? You only have word vs word. I don't need proof of anything if this is the case, cause I did miss that "sub rule" but that sub rule is awful and can be greatly exploited.

But if thats the case, sorry for wasting your time. Your rules are your rules...

[Soul alt]

Makes a report but doesn't want a demotion, makes sense

people make mistakes, I don't believe anyone should be punished that harshly for doing something they thought was justifed, I use to be head admin for spacecats TTT.rules were followed strictly by all staff, I enforced it as such. People make mistakes though, thats just life

---

Lmao that’s literally only sussable not kosable

You should really learn the rules of the server before speaking falsely.


Reasons to call a Kill-on-Sight(KOS):

The below lists of reasons to KOS and sus are for reference, and cover the most common issues. However, these are not complete lists and do not necessarily cover all edge cases. If anything comes up that is not covered by what is shown below, it is to be handled at staff discretion. Killing someone who called a legitimate kos based on the below reasons may yield a slay.

•  Killing Detectives, except when they are RDMing
  
  
•  Throwing incendiary grenades near non-kosed players
  
  
•  Entering traitor room while unproven
  
  
•  Calling a KOS on someone who is proven Innocent and not a Detective
  
  
•  Throwing discombobulators such that they can push people off ledges, causing damage
  
  
•  Prop killing
  
  
•  Causing damage by falling onto players
  
  
•  Damaging a destructible tester or health station
  
  
•  Destroying the map tester, even preround
  
  
•  Breaking a bridge with players on it such that it causes damage
  
  
•  Killing or injuring someone with explosive barrels
  
  
•  Holding explosive barrels near players
  
  
•  Activating traps with the intent to kill someone (ex. Traps on Trappycottage & Richland)
  
  
•  Having DNA of an Innocent or Detective on you 1
  

I think you missed the 1 in italics that leads you to exceptions:
1. Unless the Detective or innocent was RDMing

Now, do you have screenshots of logs, video, or can someone get those or the map/round/time so someone can find those? That way this can get cleared up.

Well now I'm super confused, this is nothing but a highly exploitable loophole. Traitor's are allowed to call false kos's, and they are defintely allowed to lie, how is someone suppose to know that someone was rdming? You only have word vs word. I don't need proof of anything if this is the case, cause I did miss that "sub rule" but that sub rule is awful and can be greatly exploited.

But if thats the case, sorry for wasting your time. Your rules are your rules...

Traitors arent allowed to lie that breaks one of the ten commandments. Thou shalt not tell false witnesses. So clearly not a false slay. (just for you not as smart people this is sarcasm btw not hate speech) (not an opinion either)