07-05-2022, 10:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-05-2022, 10:16 AM by jax. Edited 4 times in total.)
Monumentally retarded to keep him banned on the forums, while having him unbanned on the discord. If you really wanted him punished, you shouldn't have unbanned him from the discord. In this context, the -1 arguments don't really make any sense.
"I don't think you've changed."
"What if you do it again, you have a history."
All these points are moot because if he decides to, he can just troll / shitpost / harass (whatever your fears are) on discord. Remove these, and there isn't really a reason not to unban him. If you wanted him punished, shouldn't have unbanned him from the discord. Plus, if anything, the appropriate 'pipeline' would have been to unban him from the forums first, then the discord, given that the forums are the medium in which "official" server discussion occurs.
Alexa, Google "False Equivalency"
But if you guys really want to draw 'comparisons' to crimes like murder (lmfao) Then let's draw a comparison to assault, trespassing, etc where if the "victim" decides not to press charges, then there is no criminal punishment enacted. So to say "When a murderer is on trial a lot of times the family will forgive them in their victim impact statements, and yet the murderer still goes to prison for what they did." doesn't really make sense considering there are many instances of other crimes, where that *is* the case.
(Also not to mention, that in a murder case the "victim" can't forgive the perpetrator because the "victim" is dead/murdered. Where as in assault, trespassing, etc the victim is still alive, hence why they are able to choose to press charges or not.)
Overall, I'm not going to vote because I don't care enough about the situation, but really some of these "arguments" against are ridiculous.
"I don't think you've changed."
"What if you do it again, you have a history."
All these points are moot because if he decides to, he can just troll / shitpost / harass (whatever your fears are) on discord. Remove these, and there isn't really a reason not to unban him. If you wanted him punished, shouldn't have unbanned him from the discord. Plus, if anything, the appropriate 'pipeline' would have been to unban him from the forums first, then the discord, given that the forums are the medium in which "official" server discussion occurs.
(07-04-2022, 11:47 PM)Foxka Wrote: Yeah man calling someone a pedo is a real funny meme!
Alexa, Google "comparisons"
-1 for reasons stated above
Alexa, Google "False Equivalency"
But if you guys really want to draw 'comparisons' to crimes like murder (lmfao) Then let's draw a comparison to assault, trespassing, etc where if the "victim" decides not to press charges, then there is no criminal punishment enacted. So to say "When a murderer is on trial a lot of times the family will forgive them in their victim impact statements, and yet the murderer still goes to prison for what they did." doesn't really make sense considering there are many instances of other crimes, where that *is* the case.
(Also not to mention, that in a murder case the "victim" can't forgive the perpetrator because the "victim" is dead/murdered. Where as in assault, trespassing, etc the victim is still alive, hence why they are able to choose to press charges or not.)
Overall, I'm not going to vote because I don't care enough about the situation, but really some of these "arguments" against are ridiculous.