07-05-2022, 04:17 PM
I think one thing needs heavily clarified here, since it's being spread that I straight up called Travis a pedo.
That was never the intent of the meme (not that intent is the only thing that matters), and I believe I clued in on that intent when I sent it to Matt, personally.
For context, it was a picture of two men who were cleaning a kitchen, and the faces of the mean had Travis's and Rippe's put on them. This is because way back when, Rippe had made himself a role called Forum Janitor, and that has been relentlessly memed on. The only joke was that Travis was essentially that role. I put something like the words "forums" or "janitor" or clean" everywhere on the image, don't remember which, to drive the point home. The issue has always been that it was a drawable conclusion that I was calling Travis one, or comparing him to one, which is terrible, yeah. But I've never joked, said anything, or even alluded to anyone being a nonce. I wasn't around when Rippe was, I never really had it told to me too much what he did or anything, I moreso knew him of his blunders as staff than anything more, as no one told me much more. So yeah, at that time, the discord janitor thing seemed like an obvious joke. Then, once it was done, I went to Matt, a friend of Travis's, and someone who doesn't like me, and asked him if I could post it, legitimately thinking he would find it funny too. If I'd have thought it was extremely malicious, sending it to someone who would be most likely to find problem with it would be the last thing I'd do, I'd think.
So yeah. It was messed up. But the intent had nothing to do with anything even remotely inappropriate except for using his image. I still understand that it's a conclusion people could draw, and that's why I've felt terrible about it for months. That's all.
Also also I was only bringing up the whole forgiving thing because that's the most important part, even if y'all think I should be punished more, even if I /was/ punished for a solid year, if Travis were not comfortable with me being here, i wouldn't want to be, I've said that from the beginning and have held by that.
Oh, and I didn't run a smear campaign on Battons. I made one post after some things I can't talk about were said in staff chat, and after talking to Quantum, because a decision was pretty messed up, and made entirely preemptively, which was evident considering the increased punishment a few days later. I didn't ask anyone to comment on it, and I didn't make more than my initial post. That's a very stark contrast to a smear campaign, and Battons knows I have nothing against him, and him and I tend to at least be pretty cordial, if not chummy.
Last thing I'll really have to say on this post is this: what's the difference between me being in the Discord and me being on the forums? I have much more accessibility to the community in terms of my ability to "troll" or whatever on the discord, it's significantly more difficult to get away with things here by design. I was banned from both from the same thing, which didn't have to do with either, so if it's about my ability to "have someone in my target" or whatever, I'd think forum unban would come before discord unban. And with that "when i find a new target" thing, I'm not sure what is meant by that honestly, this is the only targeted thing I've really done, there's not some big history of me targeting people and harassing them, the biggest stretch you could probably make is that of ThePhoenix, but I believe it's pretty widely considered that he instigated a fair chunk of anything that went on. If you want to talk about how giving someone a chance is giving someone the chance to do it again, unbanning in general is a generally bad idea. That's the whole point. So yeah. I just want to continue trying, I guess. There are so many people here who have said/done pretty messy things who have come back from that, y'know? Heck, some even have become staff or admins since.
That was never the intent of the meme (not that intent is the only thing that matters), and I believe I clued in on that intent when I sent it to Matt, personally.
For context, it was a picture of two men who were cleaning a kitchen, and the faces of the mean had Travis's and Rippe's put on them. This is because way back when, Rippe had made himself a role called Forum Janitor, and that has been relentlessly memed on. The only joke was that Travis was essentially that role. I put something like the words "forums" or "janitor" or clean" everywhere on the image, don't remember which, to drive the point home. The issue has always been that it was a drawable conclusion that I was calling Travis one, or comparing him to one, which is terrible, yeah. But I've never joked, said anything, or even alluded to anyone being a nonce. I wasn't around when Rippe was, I never really had it told to me too much what he did or anything, I moreso knew him of his blunders as staff than anything more, as no one told me much more. So yeah, at that time, the discord janitor thing seemed like an obvious joke. Then, once it was done, I went to Matt, a friend of Travis's, and someone who doesn't like me, and asked him if I could post it, legitimately thinking he would find it funny too. If I'd have thought it was extremely malicious, sending it to someone who would be most likely to find problem with it would be the last thing I'd do, I'd think.
So yeah. It was messed up. But the intent had nothing to do with anything even remotely inappropriate except for using his image. I still understand that it's a conclusion people could draw, and that's why I've felt terrible about it for months. That's all.
Also also I was only bringing up the whole forgiving thing because that's the most important part, even if y'all think I should be punished more, even if I /was/ punished for a solid year, if Travis were not comfortable with me being here, i wouldn't want to be, I've said that from the beginning and have held by that.
Oh, and I didn't run a smear campaign on Battons. I made one post after some things I can't talk about were said in staff chat, and after talking to Quantum, because a decision was pretty messed up, and made entirely preemptively, which was evident considering the increased punishment a few days later. I didn't ask anyone to comment on it, and I didn't make more than my initial post. That's a very stark contrast to a smear campaign, and Battons knows I have nothing against him, and him and I tend to at least be pretty cordial, if not chummy.
Last thing I'll really have to say on this post is this: what's the difference between me being in the Discord and me being on the forums? I have much more accessibility to the community in terms of my ability to "troll" or whatever on the discord, it's significantly more difficult to get away with things here by design. I was banned from both from the same thing, which didn't have to do with either, so if it's about my ability to "have someone in my target" or whatever, I'd think forum unban would come before discord unban. And with that "when i find a new target" thing, I'm not sure what is meant by that honestly, this is the only targeted thing I've really done, there's not some big history of me targeting people and harassing them, the biggest stretch you could probably make is that of ThePhoenix, but I believe it's pretty widely considered that he instigated a fair chunk of anything that went on. If you want to talk about how giving someone a chance is giving someone the chance to do it again, unbanning in general is a generally bad idea. That's the whole point. So yeah. I just want to continue trying, I guess. There are so many people here who have said/done pretty messy things who have come back from that, y'know? Heck, some even have become staff or admins since.
