08-31-2022, 06:25 PM
This is going to be a long reply, so get comfy.
To start with, this is a definite -1 from me. There's a lot of reasons for this, and I will explain them all.
I'd say the most obvious one is this is far from Shaye's first, second, or even third unban appeal. Despite all the chances she has been given she always repeats the same mistakes and ends up in the same situation. Shaye makes promises that she has learned her lesson, that she won't do it again, that she knows what she did wrong and is sorry. Yet it's not long before she does it all over again. At some point you have to accept that someone is not going to change. Shaye has demonstrated that she does not have any intention to adhere to the same rules as everyone else. If Shaye is unbanned from the Discord server, you can rest assured we will see her making another appeal soon down the road when she breaks the same rules for what will seem like the 100th time.
I staffed for a TTT server in the past. It was called Skyz Gaming. Don't get me wrong I have nothing but regret that I wasted my time helping that server considering what eventually happened there, but I still learned a lot from the experience. For one thing, I dealt with people just like Shaye. We had a player who would constantly break the same rules and get unbanned just to repeat those mistakes. Some time after the shut-down of Skyz TTT I saw this player on another server where we both became regulars. They of course had not made any progress, receiving warns and ultimately bans for the exact same rule breaking.
Some people can change, and it's important we give them second chances. When you give someone a 6th or 7th chance and they cease to change their behavior, it's time to stop giving them more chances.
My other reasons might seem more personal, but I assure you they are coming from a place of reason. As a quick forefront, while what I am about to discuss did not occur in the Dinkleberg's Discord server, it still feels relevant to the matter at hand.
Shaye has made me the target of her harassment quite frequently as of late. When I first joined Dinkleberg's TTT Shaye was actually one of the people to help welcome me to the community. She was nice to me, and I enjoyed playing on the server with her, but that quickly changed. She went from joking and bantering with me to ignoring me very quickly. I tried not to take it personally and moved on. However, when I returned from a hiatus, she had gone from having a seeming ambivalence towards me, to outright hostility. She would insult and harass me when we were both on the server. To this day I don't know what caused this shift in her attitude towards me.
If you need any proof of this, I will provide my most recent interaction with Shaye, where she started an argument with me by calling me insults, over what she perceived as a False KOS, and attempted RDM.
Footage provided by Chibill at my request (Thank you, Chibill): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r590mpKerTc
Timestamps
7:16 - I initially KOS Shaye. Nothing of significance occurs prior to this time.
10:01 - Shaye dies and I say it is 'deserved' (as despite the KOS, she managed to walk around without anyone attempting to carry it out). The argument begins here and Shaye begins with insults right out of the gate.
10:52 - While Chibill is handling her report, Shaye further instigates the argument in text chat.
11:29 - Shaye repeats her initial insult in text chat. After my clapback the argument ends. Chibill continues handling the report.
While this is only one instance of my interactions with Shaye, I can assure you this they all follow this formulae. Shaye becomes upset over something ultimately unimportant and begins insulting and harassing me.
She continues this behavior outside of the TTT server. After a recent event took place in the Discord server, most of the people involved (including me) had further interactions in the "Salt Mine" Discord. Once again Shaye decided to attack me over something she believed to be far more personal than it truly was. I, unfortunately, cannot provide any context, as I was banned from that Discord for "chat spam." (A provably false reason, as can be attested by others in the server, in case you feel this undermines my position on this matter in some way)
Considering the timing of these events, and Shaye's sudden desire to be unbanned from the TTT server, it would seem safe to assume at least some of the reasoning behind her appeal is rooted in these events. It would not come as any surprise if she were to instigate further hostilities in the Discord server between her and myself. I'd prefer to avoid this entirely, if at all possible.
To reiterate, and make a concise version of the above for those uninclined to read a large wall of text, I am giving this appeal a -1. Shaye has repeatedly broken the same rules and shown no desire to stop doing so. She constantly flames and harasses, starting fights, and the posting of this appeal seems at least somewhat connected to recent events that paint it in not so earnest lighting.
Whether you agree with me or think I'm completely wrong, I'd still thank you for taking any amount of time to read or consider my response here.
To start with, this is a definite -1 from me. There's a lot of reasons for this, and I will explain them all.
I'd say the most obvious one is this is far from Shaye's first, second, or even third unban appeal. Despite all the chances she has been given she always repeats the same mistakes and ends up in the same situation. Shaye makes promises that she has learned her lesson, that she won't do it again, that she knows what she did wrong and is sorry. Yet it's not long before she does it all over again. At some point you have to accept that someone is not going to change. Shaye has demonstrated that she does not have any intention to adhere to the same rules as everyone else. If Shaye is unbanned from the Discord server, you can rest assured we will see her making another appeal soon down the road when she breaks the same rules for what will seem like the 100th time.
I staffed for a TTT server in the past. It was called Skyz Gaming. Don't get me wrong I have nothing but regret that I wasted my time helping that server considering what eventually happened there, but I still learned a lot from the experience. For one thing, I dealt with people just like Shaye. We had a player who would constantly break the same rules and get unbanned just to repeat those mistakes. Some time after the shut-down of Skyz TTT I saw this player on another server where we both became regulars. They of course had not made any progress, receiving warns and ultimately bans for the exact same rule breaking.
Some people can change, and it's important we give them second chances. When you give someone a 6th or 7th chance and they cease to change their behavior, it's time to stop giving them more chances.
My other reasons might seem more personal, but I assure you they are coming from a place of reason. As a quick forefront, while what I am about to discuss did not occur in the Dinkleberg's Discord server, it still feels relevant to the matter at hand.
Shaye has made me the target of her harassment quite frequently as of late. When I first joined Dinkleberg's TTT Shaye was actually one of the people to help welcome me to the community. She was nice to me, and I enjoyed playing on the server with her, but that quickly changed. She went from joking and bantering with me to ignoring me very quickly. I tried not to take it personally and moved on. However, when I returned from a hiatus, she had gone from having a seeming ambivalence towards me, to outright hostility. She would insult and harass me when we were both on the server. To this day I don't know what caused this shift in her attitude towards me.
If you need any proof of this, I will provide my most recent interaction with Shaye, where she started an argument with me by calling me insults, over what she perceived as a False KOS, and attempted RDM.
Footage provided by Chibill at my request (Thank you, Chibill): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r590mpKerTc
Timestamps
7:16 - I initially KOS Shaye. Nothing of significance occurs prior to this time.
10:01 - Shaye dies and I say it is 'deserved' (as despite the KOS, she managed to walk around without anyone attempting to carry it out). The argument begins here and Shaye begins with insults right out of the gate.
10:52 - While Chibill is handling her report, Shaye further instigates the argument in text chat.
11:29 - Shaye repeats her initial insult in text chat. After my clapback the argument ends. Chibill continues handling the report.
While this is only one instance of my interactions with Shaye, I can assure you this they all follow this formulae. Shaye becomes upset over something ultimately unimportant and begins insulting and harassing me.
She continues this behavior outside of the TTT server. After a recent event took place in the Discord server, most of the people involved (including me) had further interactions in the "Salt Mine" Discord. Once again Shaye decided to attack me over something she believed to be far more personal than it truly was. I, unfortunately, cannot provide any context, as I was banned from that Discord for "chat spam." (A provably false reason, as can be attested by others in the server, in case you feel this undermines my position on this matter in some way)
Considering the timing of these events, and Shaye's sudden desire to be unbanned from the TTT server, it would seem safe to assume at least some of the reasoning behind her appeal is rooted in these events. It would not come as any surprise if she were to instigate further hostilities in the Discord server between her and myself. I'd prefer to avoid this entirely, if at all possible.
To reiterate, and make a concise version of the above for those uninclined to read a large wall of text, I am giving this appeal a -1. Shaye has repeatedly broken the same rules and shown no desire to stop doing so. She constantly flames and harasses, starting fights, and the posting of this appeal seems at least somewhat connected to recent events that paint it in not so earnest lighting.
Whether you agree with me or think I'm completely wrong, I'd still thank you for taking any amount of time to read or consider my response here.
