08-31-2022, 08:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-31-2022, 08:54 PM by Gabe. Edited 6 times in total.
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Not commenting on the unban request itself at this time, but just going to comment on some of the things being posted so far. This thread is not going to turn into drama-filled cesspool that is not relevant to the topic of Shaye's discord unban appeal for Dinkleberg's. Any outside drama(i.e something that happened in another discord) should not be the center of attention for this thread and frankly should not even be talked about here. I say this because other than the fact that it is an external discord, the actual context around that situation can easily be distorted and create unnecessary drama. Also as noted, that is a personal thing, that can be handled with the relevant people in dms for that discord. Kaiwan, If you truly think it has some relevance to Shaye's unban request(which to make clear, I really don't think has any relevance), I'd recommend dming Jammin or Kap about it rather than having a scenario where we going back and forth here.
As for behavior on TTT and other parts of the Dinkleberg community, I think it's ok to make a note of it as supplemental/supportive context or reasoning of why you are +1ing/-1ing if it has any relevance, but I don't think that should be the dominant conversation or factor talked about here since this is a discord unban request so those points should primarily be brought up and discussed in a civil manner rather than this just being about Shaye's behavior on TTT, for example. Imo TTT and Discord are ultimately apart of the same community but they're separate entities with their own type of environment so just because someone behaves a certain way in one environment doesn't necessarily reflect how they'll act in another type of environment all the time. But if it is relevant it can indicate a pattern of behavior if it's consistent across the different environments and if someone may change(I.e in a general context: intent, toxicity, harassment, etc).
As for comments I deleted, I really don't like deleting comments unless I have to but the trend of them started to become counterproductive and we're not going to derail the thread by trying to "ratio" someone's post or have the thread cluttered with comments that give no relevant context to their +1s and/or -1s since it doesn't add anything productive to the topic at hand.
As for behavior on TTT and other parts of the Dinkleberg community, I think it's ok to make a note of it as supplemental/supportive context or reasoning of why you are +1ing/-1ing if it has any relevance, but I don't think that should be the dominant conversation or factor talked about here since this is a discord unban request so those points should primarily be brought up and discussed in a civil manner rather than this just being about Shaye's behavior on TTT, for example. Imo TTT and Discord are ultimately apart of the same community but they're separate entities with their own type of environment so just because someone behaves a certain way in one environment doesn't necessarily reflect how they'll act in another type of environment all the time. But if it is relevant it can indicate a pattern of behavior if it's consistent across the different environments and if someone may change(I.e in a general context: intent, toxicity, harassment, etc).
As for comments I deleted, I really don't like deleting comments unless I have to but the trend of them started to become counterproductive and we're not going to derail the thread by trying to "ratio" someone's post or have the thread cluttered with comments that give no relevant context to their +1s and/or -1s since it doesn't add anything productive to the topic at hand.
