03-04-2023, 11:27 AM
I just want to give my take on this, as I feel I am friends with both Jawa and Damien.
If someone slurs on the server, they are to be warned by the staff members online. If Damien hadn't warned you, someone else would have. I also know that Jawa isn't stupid and probably knew that he was being edgy. Regardless of context or whatever, if someone slurs they get warned. This is to help avoid bias. If someone said the f slur before Jawa and was warned, but then Jawa says it and they are given a verbal, you start hearing people bitch about selective staffing and what not. With that being said, slurring isn't life or death and there is a reason that they expire. 80% of staff have slurred at some point so just take the warn and move on. Unfortunately, this escalated into something much bigger than that.
Harassment is a big deal. If two people are at odds and someone says to leave them alone, they should be left alone. Is what happened between Jawa and Damien harassment?? Not in my opinion. Jawa was heated and felt like he was being treated unfairly, resulting in the PM's to Damien. However, in every other case where two individuals are arguing and one is asked to be left alone, it is also treated as harassment. I don't think that anything Damien did was to spite Jawa or embarrass him. You guys need to understand that some staff are more lenient than others and each one of them have their own view on what is considered harassment, trolling, flaming, etc. It's pretty obvious that Jawa enjoys the server and I have never seen him attack, intimidate, or antagonize anyone. What I do see is someone getting heated over what they consider being treated unfairly by a staff member.
I think that each party could have done something better. I think Damien should have ignored Jawa's messages and realized that staff members take shit. If we warned for every insult thrown our way, the server wouldn't have any players. The goal of staff is to de-escalate situations so that both parties involved in said conflict can continue to enjoy the game. Damien knew Jawa was heated, and instead of leaving the server (de-escalates), asking another staff member to get on (de-escalates), or simply ignoring Jawa, he decided to have Jawa issued a harassment warn, doing the complete opposite. I think this was a big mistake on Damiens part
Sorry for the paragraph. Jawa and Damien are both respected members of this community and people I consider friends. The sooner this gets resolved, the sooner we can move past petty drama and arguments. In these situations, I expect staff to take the higher road, but that doesn't dismiss that Jawa could have also gone about this better.
I'm going to do a +1 on reduction of ban, as well as changing the harassment warn to flaming.
If someone slurs on the server, they are to be warned by the staff members online. If Damien hadn't warned you, someone else would have. I also know that Jawa isn't stupid and probably knew that he was being edgy. Regardless of context or whatever, if someone slurs they get warned. This is to help avoid bias. If someone said the f slur before Jawa and was warned, but then Jawa says it and they are given a verbal, you start hearing people bitch about selective staffing and what not. With that being said, slurring isn't life or death and there is a reason that they expire. 80% of staff have slurred at some point so just take the warn and move on. Unfortunately, this escalated into something much bigger than that.
Harassment is a big deal. If two people are at odds and someone says to leave them alone, they should be left alone. Is what happened between Jawa and Damien harassment?? Not in my opinion. Jawa was heated and felt like he was being treated unfairly, resulting in the PM's to Damien. However, in every other case where two individuals are arguing and one is asked to be left alone, it is also treated as harassment. I don't think that anything Damien did was to spite Jawa or embarrass him. You guys need to understand that some staff are more lenient than others and each one of them have their own view on what is considered harassment, trolling, flaming, etc. It's pretty obvious that Jawa enjoys the server and I have never seen him attack, intimidate, or antagonize anyone. What I do see is someone getting heated over what they consider being treated unfairly by a staff member.
I think that each party could have done something better. I think Damien should have ignored Jawa's messages and realized that staff members take shit. If we warned for every insult thrown our way, the server wouldn't have any players. The goal of staff is to de-escalate situations so that both parties involved in said conflict can continue to enjoy the game. Damien knew Jawa was heated, and instead of leaving the server (de-escalates), asking another staff member to get on (de-escalates), or simply ignoring Jawa, he decided to have Jawa issued a harassment warn, doing the complete opposite. I think this was a big mistake on Damiens part
Sorry for the paragraph. Jawa and Damien are both respected members of this community and people I consider friends. The sooner this gets resolved, the sooner we can move past petty drama and arguments. In these situations, I expect staff to take the higher road, but that doesn't dismiss that Jawa could have also gone about this better.
I'm going to do a +1 on reduction of ban, as well as changing the harassment warn to flaming.
