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You are somewhat correct, a 4 week ban was justified back then, but since then more information has come out about what Hong has been doing to others. The punishment fitted the bill when it was for what little we knew back then, but now (like this thread shows) we know more about what Hong has done, and therefore the punishment should be altered too. 

I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face, but the guidelines for racism outside of prophunt are too lax. Permanent bans should be given quicker for racism, and the time for a warning for racism to expire should be at least 6 months or longer from the most recent offense.

This is what I was going to put on the original thread before it got locked. There's no denying that Hong needs to go try and say that crap in real life and see what the hell happens, but digging up 2+ year old evidence for a ban request in those specific circumstances was not only petty, but more importantly did not address the underlying problem... why wasn't he permabanned anyway? TTT historically has a garbage track record with enforcing slurs & racist behavior, we should be calling on the moderators & admins to explain why this was even tolerated in the first place.

Just to clarify, the stuff with Lemon resulted in a verbal warning from an admin and a logging of the incident, it's not at all new information for staff; whether or not that was taken into consideration with the last warn currently being discussed that got me banned for a month, I have no clue, especially since the warn specifically came with approval from an admin (not the same as the one who gave the verbal warn). Whether or not I get banned matters far less to me than reaching out and giving apologies that people deserve, regardless of if I'm forgiven or not.