06-30-2024, 06:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-30-2024, 06:54 PM by angel. Edited 1 time in total.)
(06-30-2024, 06:00 PM)TDawg4 Wrote: @tiefling lesbian Once again I don't appreciate my messages to you being leaked. I messaged Tiefling after the big ban message went out; I was fully ready to cut ties with Jack and other people in that discord depending on what evidence could be presented.
I told Jack that I was very concerned and he told me he wanted to be as transparent as possible, and that he felt he had done nothing wrong. Recognizing that it was a sensitive situation I did the correct thing and asked the person I believed who had the most negative view of Jack on the admin team because they would be the most careful with the situation. I did not message any of the victims because 1 that could be harassment and 2 I didn't know for sure who they were. I could guess due to who had been talking to Jack most recently, but had no first hand knowledge.
Since my logs were apparently leaked once again I feel no reason why they should not be included here.
My issue at the time was that Jack got a less sever ban compared to the people who called Battons a Pedophile and I had no idea how severe his behavior was. I still don't to be honest. I have pulled back from interacting with him a lot, but it feels weird completely ghosting him.
ALL HE EVER TOLD ME ABOUT THE SITUATIONS WHEN THE BANS DROPPED WAS THAT HE WOULD BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
Whatever you want to do that its up to you, he never sent me logs and I never asked for them. I asked tiefling what she thought would be most appropriate for me to see after the bans dropped.
My knowledge of the situation came almost exclusively from being around in calls when Bab and Jack were talking and knowing about some Florida trip way back when. I still technically don't know how involved either of them where in the ban. I also never asked for logs from anyone besides Jack? I guess now I know that would include Bab.
Also please recognize that AT THE TIME I didn't know what Jack as I say in the messages there was a wide range of possibility. However, I did get conflicting information on the severity when I asked leaving me very much in the dark as to what I should do.
If you want to turn my admin app into a relitigating this drama. Then by all means feel free, but there really isn't very much I can say about the situation.
I've never seen the full exchange before this, I was shown specifically what you were asking for, which was done as I said, out of concern for my privacy and well-being by Tiefling and considering you were asking if it was okay to see something incredibly personal even after being told no, I feel was a valid thing for her to have done. But seeing the full log makes me feel even more uncomfortable.
There was no need to push further after being explicitly told that what you were asking for of her was wildly inappropriate, I understand being confused by the situation but the way you went about it was super inappropriate and it should've ended when Tiefling said 'inappropriate behavior towards women based on multiple pieces of evidence'.
The only reason I chose to bring it up again on your application was that you specifically stated the opposite of what *actually* happened and that was incredibly concerning to me considering you are applying for a position where you'd be the highest currently achievable rank in your part of the community who has to actively handle those situations as they arise, which I also feel is a valid concern to share here.
It was not shared to 'relitigate' any drama, I simply planned to share my concern with you about getting the promotion as one does on an application with open responses for feedback, and see what your response was to it to see whether or not I could personally trust you with handling those situations going further, everything that came after my post explaining my concern was not of my own volition or want.
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Also, it seems certain people believe I confirmed in some way that the admin chat was being leaked? I said multiple times that I didn't know, I was not involved, didn't care, and didn't care to know. Don't know what's goin' on with that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯