06-30-2024, 07:14 PM
(06-30-2024, 06:00 PM)TDawg4 Wrote: @tiefling lesbian Once again I don't appreciate my messages to you being leaked. I messaged Tiefling after the big ban message went out; I was fully ready to cut ties with Jack and other people in that discord depending on what evidence could be presented.We've discussed this privately, but I just want to summarize/clarify. I didn't leak the logs, but I did tell bab about tdawg asking as I was concerned information might get leaked and wanted her to be aware. At the time I wasn't sure I had convinced him in our conversation and could only assume he wasn't the only one trying to get information, but I am confident now that he didn't seek leaks.
I told Jack that I was very concerned and he told me he wanted to be as transparent as possible, and that he felt he had done nothing wrong. Recognizing that it was a sensitive situation I did the correct thing and asked the person I believed who had the most negative view of Jack on the admin team because they would be the most careful with the situation. I did not message any of the victims because 1 that could be harassment and 2 I didn't know for sure who they were. I could guess due to who had been talking to Jack most recently, but had no first hand knowledge.
Since my logs were apparently leaked once again I feel no reason why they should not be included here.
My issue at the time was that Jack got a less sever ban compared to the people who called Battons a Pedophile and I had no idea how severe his behavior was. I still don't to be honest. I have pulled back from interacting with him a lot, but it feels weird completely ghosting him.
ALL HE EVER TOLD ME ABOUT THE SITUATIONS WHEN THE BANS DROPPED WAS THAT HE WOULD BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
Whatever you want to do that its up to you, he never sent me logs and I never asked for them. I asked tiefling what she thought would be most appropriate for me to see after the bans dropped.
My knowledge of the situation came almost exclusively from being around in calls when Bab and Jack were talking and knowing about some Florida trip way back when. I still technically don't know how involved either of them where in the ban. I also never asked for logs from anyone besides Jack? I guess now I know that would include Bab.
Also please recognize that AT THE TIME I didn't know what Jack as I say in the messages there was a wide range of possibility. However, I did get conflicting information on the severity when I asked leaving me very much in the dark as to what I should do.
If you want to turn my admin app into a relitigating this drama. Then by all means feel free, but there really isn't very much I can say about the situation.
For those who want a TLDR: TLDR I asked if it was appropriate for me to see Jack's logs. I was told no and so I did not see Jacks logs. I left it there. Also this is the second time my communications about a relatively sensitive issue have been leaked and I don't appreciate the pattern. Just send me a dm and ask or ask me to leak my own logs, I probably will just send you them if the other party is ok with it.
I am sending this one a little hot so please if you want clarification, Just Ask.