[TDawg4]

I've never seen the full exchange before this, I was shown specifically what you were asking for, which was done as I said, out of concern for my privacy and well-being by Tiefling and considering you were asking if it was okay to see something incredibly personal even after being told no, I feel was a valid thing for her to have done. But seeing the full log makes me feel even more uncomfortable.

There was no need to push further after being explicitly told that what you were asking for of her was wildly inappropriate, I understand being confused by the situation but the way you went about it was super inappropriate and it should've ended when Tiefling said 'inappropriate behavior towards women based on multiple pieces of evidence'.

The only reason I chose to bring it up again on your application was that you specifically stated the opposite of what *actually* happened and that was incredibly concerning to me considering you are applying for a position where you'd be the highest currently achievable rank in your part of the community who has to actively handle those situations as they arise, which I also feel is a valid concern to share here. 

It was not shared to 'relitigate' any drama, I simply planned to share my concern with you about getting the promotion as one does on an application with open responses for feedback, and see what your response was to it to see whether or not I could personally trust you with handling those situations going further, everything that came after my post explaining my concern was not of my own volition or want.

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Also, it seems certain people believe I confirmed in some way that the admin chat was being leaked? I said multiple times that I didn't know, I was not involved, didn't care, and didn't care to know. Don't know what's goin' on with that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

True that is true. I did not ask a "general feelings" question to all the admins. What I asked tiefling was unique compared to the others. And from what you originally posted It 100% is a valid concern. What I intended to convey was that the information conveyed to me from admins was minimal and the best I could do was get general feelings. 
I was told it is Wildly Inappropriate to ask, but that did not match up with the other bans as I mentioned to tea. This is why I asked for more context. I just didn't want to be party to something like lots of laced's friends were. I talked with them and they felt terrible about that situation and that really was making me think. 

My first question was "do you think its wrong" when asked for clarification I clarified where my feelings were at the time which were driving me to ask that question.

I got told it was wrong so I asked a second different question or which was essentially "what I should do instead" 

My second question was not relitigating the same point relating to logs. It was asking a different question about the nature of the ban I did not ask for specifics after being told it was "wildly inappropriate" to ask for them. In the second part I was not demanding anything or even asking a question, I was sharing with tiefling where my thoughts were add and if she could do anything to point them in the right direction as far as how I should act. I actually did get more of an answer when I asked for direction which was Tiefling wishing that the ban was more sever/wide reaching. This did influence me and how I have moved forward since then. 

The goal was to not nibble around the edges looking for a way in. It was direction for how I should behave especially in the context of laced's recent ban. 

Also I'll add from what you have said I think the things you are saying fit. You don't know me well, and you feeling like your putting yourself out there and being vulnerable especially now in a public space is obviously miserable. 


Looking back, I could have been clearer my stance but I was writing as a conversation not a forum post. I wasn't asking to be convinced, but asking for a yes or no from tiefling on the logs issue. (I was basically outsourcing the question to someone who knew more and I knew would take a strong stance based on that info). 

I am sorry my Admin app is dragging you back through this as you have tried to step back from the community as a whole.