09-04-2024, 10:29 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-04-2024, 10:34 PM by Dildo Shwaggins. Edited 2 times in total.)
Upon reading some of the responses, including Battons, I thought of a point here, and a question for the community related to it.
It seems like the admin team had a lot of its own turmoil leading to the unbans and this result here- hence Battons' response- the results and this post seemed to have come with a series of compromises attached. What they are doesn't need to necessarily be made public, but I have a feeling that's what happened behind the scenes. (EDIT- chibill's response does indicate this possibly being the case)
Next, I think a lot of this tumult ever since the April drama explosion has been the result of converging Dinks-adjacent spaces having disagreements that blow up in Dinks spaces. I've been on record for finding the admins' handling of occurrences in adjacent spaces being less than optimal (my views align with RyanHighman on this, he's better at writing things like that out than I am for one, but refer to his posts on that topic).
On that point- adjacent spaces seemed to be at odds to the point where it's visible on server activity and the forum/Dinks discord explosions. But those adjacent spaces being the places on multiple sides to where the drama festered had to have started somewhere, and at least in Dinks spaces, I think it's worthy to ask the community:
Do you think how admins have handled certain things factor into driving people away from Dinks spaces? Do you think the actions of the administration have contributed to/maintained an environment that adjacent spaces are the only places that are enjoyable to be in? How can we identify possible problems before they get this bad?
This isn't to ask "I left because I don't like x person or x admin" but from a broad/big picture look at it. If we understand what factors led up to the mess and what factors still exist to keep a divide going, then things can be in a better spot for all.
It seems like the admin team had a lot of its own turmoil leading to the unbans and this result here- hence Battons' response- the results and this post seemed to have come with a series of compromises attached. What they are doesn't need to necessarily be made public, but I have a feeling that's what happened behind the scenes. (EDIT- chibill's response does indicate this possibly being the case)
Next, I think a lot of this tumult ever since the April drama explosion has been the result of converging Dinks-adjacent spaces having disagreements that blow up in Dinks spaces. I've been on record for finding the admins' handling of occurrences in adjacent spaces being less than optimal (my views align with RyanHighman on this, he's better at writing things like that out than I am for one, but refer to his posts on that topic).
On that point- adjacent spaces seemed to be at odds to the point where it's visible on server activity and the forum/Dinks discord explosions. But those adjacent spaces being the places on multiple sides to where the drama festered had to have started somewhere, and at least in Dinks spaces, I think it's worthy to ask the community:
Do you think how admins have handled certain things factor into driving people away from Dinks spaces? Do you think the actions of the administration have contributed to/maintained an environment that adjacent spaces are the only places that are enjoyable to be in? How can we identify possible problems before they get this bad?
This isn't to ask "I left because I don't like x person or x admin" but from a broad/big picture look at it. If we understand what factors led up to the mess and what factors still exist to keep a divide going, then things can be in a better spot for all.