[Jammin]

How about we post the admin conversations had during this time? No more of the he-said she-said and let people see the decision making process.

With respect, this sets a bad precedent. There is a trust in the admin team that evidence/data/information sent to them is kept confidential, and I'm not convinced even a redacted admin chat posting would be worth posting.

There are members of both sides of the 'cliques' on the admin team, and I trust the current team to be level headed and unbiased enough to service things moving forward.

Plus I trust this community to collectively make decisions almost as much as I trust radioactive waste to serve as good insulation. I'll take the admin team over a massive hivemind jury.

Edit: responding to @kessler. in an edit to not clog up the thread here with bickering.
I'm not saying that clique representation needs to be present on the admin team, and I agree 100% that any admin should be capable of banning a friend, enemy, based on objective evidence - not mentality. What I intended to imply was that because there are voices on both sides of the 'spectrum' checks and balances are present for unanimous admin bans such as community and all server bans. My apologies for not being clearer on that point.

As for trusting the community, I disagree with the idea that the current admins are incompetent. I do find the idea of some kind of advisory committee intriguing, as my current community has had great success with such, but I don't trust a community hivemind that 5 months ago would have banned Battons for absolute dog shit. There are some in the community who would provide good insight, but opening that door to the community making decisions is utter nonsense.

Side note on cliques, if it's not as bad as it was then you can disregard my comment. I'm not in any side discords affected by the events of April so I wouldn't really be informed on the current state of things.

One final note I have, people make mistakes. It's human nature to make mistakes. There ought to be accountability for those mistakes. Accountability doesn't mean the nuclear option of nuking the admin team. Accountability means admins discussing the thought process, discussing the responses here, opening the line of conversation, making retribution/apologies where needed, and fixing policies/etc for the future. Opening the line of conversation shouldn't result in tdawg or tiefling or chibill or Ryan getting crucified for opening the line of questioning - that honor should be reserved for the Aussie.