[The Chuckster]

I don’t think the clique v clique nonsense is the real issue here to be quite honest. You’d be hard pressed to realize that most of your targets don’t use pc or talk gmod anymore. I think the overall sloppiness and lack of real remorse from upper staff is what most people are concerned about from what I’ve read here and have heard way down in the tunnels. Almost everything since those bans have read like poor justifications and no real apology. Is it that hard to admit that it was rushed and that you were genuinely wrong? Use your big admin voices if you feel like the overall team is drifting towards the wrong decision. You’re supposed to be leaders not let yourselves get pushed over.

There’s also no need to drag in the other place considering most of the migrants left completely silent and without issue. The story that’s posted on this thread about that is very misleading.

I second that opinion, I feel like a lot of this mess has only been exacerbated by the utter lack of an apology. I feel like a big part of being an admin is to be capable of reaching down from your glass tower and leveling with the people below. Of course there is always going to be some level of disconnect between regular users and staff, but helping to remind people that you are human as well and still are not some infallible being who is always perfectly justified is, in most cases, going to produce more trust in the admin team than just blindly trying to move past existing issues.

I also share the sentiment that if the admin team was essentially able to make such an error, something needs to change in some capacity in order that such miscarriage of leadership doesn't happen again. Not necessarily qualified as to determine exactly *what* change is needed, whether it be in procedure, individuals in leadership, or otherwise, but some reflection is necessary in order to determine the root cause. Whenever such reflection is done, I would personally love to see some ownership and accountability taken over what happened and hopefully an actual apology, for whatever that is worth.

Until then, I don't think the airing out of the administrative process by dumping DMs on a forum post is the solution, nor do I think the immediate resignation of the powers that be is the solution either. People are capable of learning if they allow themselves to reflect and show a little consideration for others.