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DylPickle's Ban Length
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(12-18-2018, 03:01 PM)queef commando Wrote:
(12-18-2018, 01:31 PM)matt_st3 (Strongrule) Wrote: Once we pin down dink the admin have a list to go over with him, including how to present clear guidelines on this matter. I personally believe that interactions between ourselves with vulgar language or mock fighting will encourage that behavior from onlookers who think that is ok. When they do it suddenly it isn’t ok?? It’s a double standard. -phone fucking o will call contimue on laptop-

Our own behavior sets the standard. If we shitpost in forums, out call everyone gey or a nigga, then that is set as what is acceptable. We cant punish on our own guidelines if we don't follow them ourselves. The discussion will also include how staff will be required to act, not just playing members. General banter is fine, its the internet, but harassment or being rude just to act like an ass will not be tolerated. Staff are supposed to conduct themselves in a (at least semi) professional manner. The rules apply to staff, donors, members - whatever. Whatever you do in pms I don't care - forums, public discord, and on server chat should not have this behavior. We will only attract the same behavior, leading to out current trolling and harassment issues.
You don't particularly need any proof of that, ive seen such behavior myself. Chat rooms, staff chat on server, pms, steam message etc are fine ways to interact however you want. Necroing, shitposting, constant 'no u' 'ok' and other useless filler posted publicly is supposed to be what staff moderates, not encourages.
-I could go on my rant but we will eventually post a thread about what we come up with after we get dink


We all play this game to have fun, not to be an example to society at large. Asking staff to be 100% serious at all times is ridiculous. This is a game not a job. I don't think it is unreasonable to mess with your friends, and let other people mess with their friends, and at the same time expect others to not mess with people they don't know. This is basic human interaction. The problem lies more in staff being at 0 or 100 at all times. Either staff are not paying attention or generally not doing anything, then suddenly someone says something and it goes straight to a 2 week or perma ban. This isnt necessarily the case here specifically, but a lot of the time staff don't take the time to talk. A lot of people on the server don't know they're doing something wrong or don't realize how bad it is. But I don't think most people are trying to be bad or trolls, they just don't realize they are doing something wrong. 

Rather than tell staff to not fuck around, I think it would be more productive to tell staff to be more proactive in educating people and treating them as human beings rather than just mindlessly punishing them the second they do something wrong. There is a course of action between nothing and a ban. We all are here to have fun, and some people don't realize that their fun hampers the fun other people are having so just let them know. Obviously some people are legitimate trolls, and only once they refuse to respond to a normal discussion is when there an actual problem and we can go about banning them or whatever.
Not my intention for staff to be 100% model gentlemen or anything, but we should at least present ourselves well and according to our own rules. We can’t moderate and know at all times who is the friend of player 6, nor can we allow certain people to behave a way and it’s not ok for others. In terms of staffing, we should be reasonably consistent. The idea is to handle the large issue so individual ones don’t get out of hand. Clearly presented and agreed upon guidelines will go a long way towards setting our expectations on communication and respect. 
Staffing and playing are not the same thing in my eyes. I feel I can fuck around in server respectfully without the need to call Lycan a “nigga” openly, or gey or no u everything - but that is my own personal rant/opinion. Not everyone has to at all. But a level of respect should be clearly laid out whatever it be, in our rules, for all to see that applies to everyone equally. As mentioned, whatever you want to do in private company is fair game. Public disruption is what we moderate, not a persons interactions. We are also here to have fun; on a player aspect we don’t want to restrict interactions. 
Everyone has a different middle ground, that’s what our discussion with dink will cover and our discussion thread (once we meet with dink to get a big picture) with the community. This currently isn’t the proper thread, so I’ll leave this be.

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Messages In This Thread
DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 05:55 AM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Old Man Voss - 12-18-2018, 07:46 AM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 08:36 AM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 12:40 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 12:44 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 01:01 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 01:12 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Laced Xanax - 12-18-2018, 02:06 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Gabe - 12-18-2018, 03:04 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by queef commando - 12-18-2018, 03:01 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Matt_St3 (Strongrule) - 12-18-2018, 03:29 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by queef commando - 12-18-2018, 04:51 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 01:38 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Smurfmin - 12-18-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Dakota - 12-18-2018, 04:03 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 04:06 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Dakota - 12-18-2018, 04:08 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 04:13 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Avi - 12-18-2018, 04:13 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Dakota - 12-18-2018, 04:44 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Scoovie - 12-18-2018, 06:08 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by HalfDemonLink - 12-18-2018, 06:12 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Scoovie - 12-18-2018, 06:14 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by HalfDemonLink - 12-18-2018, 06:20 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Foxka - 12-18-2018, 06:18 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Scoovie - 12-18-2018, 06:19 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Laced Xanax - 12-18-2018, 06:25 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Scoovie - 12-18-2018, 06:29 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Laced Xanax - 12-18-2018, 06:31 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Gabe - 12-18-2018, 06:30 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by queef commando - 12-18-2018, 06:34 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Dakota - 12-18-2018, 06:40 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by Old Man Voss - 12-18-2018, 06:54 PM
RE: DylPickle's Ban Length - by nopleez - 12-18-2018, 07:04 PM

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