03-24-2019, 08:39 PM
Ingame Name: 25sea09
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:60728857
Who Banned You: bilbo dildo or whatever the fellas called
Reason For Ban: Harassment & bounty calling
Length of Ban: perm
Reason for Mods to Unban: I'm Not so much looking for an unban but there isn't a thread to change ban reason which I'd call my primary objective here. Realistically, I didn't harass anyone. At least that's the conclusion I've been forced to come to because of the lack of clear definition of harassment within the motd. Using the harassment definitions used by google and facebook, I didn't do anything remotely similar to harassment. Harassment to google is "aggressive pressure or intimidation", and facebook has a bigger list that, I assure you, does not apply to what I did. The word the ban request most likely meant was trolling, which I absolutely did. Here is the proof of the trolling (https://imgur.com/a/pl2M86X). I didn't harass anyone because I only messed with people who took the bait, with the exception of Scoovie who didn't acknowledge me until he eventually greeted me, at which point I let him alone. I reckon that the harassment section of the motd should probably be expanded on a little bit, but that being said I'm not of a mind that what I did was necessarily worthy of a perm. That's probably best left up to the big wigs with the ! commands though, so I'll press onward. I said at the beginning of this text that I am not necessarily looking to be unbanned here, and while that is the truth, I would certainly appreciate some consideration for an unban here. I trolled and called bounties, and even if we assume that warning is a one and done thing, persisting even over years, I should be looking at around a week for trolling (though it could be argued that given my past of consistently trolling to some small degree more harsh measures should be taken), and less than that for bounties. If, on the other hand, these multiple offenses do not carry over many months, I should be slain for one round, warned, and gagged/ muted temporarily. What is most important to me here is that the reason for my ban is changed to "Trolling/Bounties" as it is a more accurate depiction of what happened.
Have you been banned before (Link relevant threads): yes, but the threads are on old forums.
Other: If you fellas want to ban people for messing around for stuff similar to what was going down, define harassment and add in something along the lines of "asking questions that don't need to be asked, especially using admin chat". While I am quick to break rules, I appreciate well written, clearly enforced rules. When either the definitions or punishments for rules are missing in their explanation, they become less valid and weaker. This also stands when rules are used as a weapon to ban people who annoy the staff instead of as a bulwark against players with malicious intent. I don't believe that what I have done is deserving of a permanent ban, but I also acknowledge that that is not my call to make.
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:60728857
Who Banned You: bilbo dildo or whatever the fellas called
Reason For Ban: Harassment & bounty calling
Length of Ban: perm
Reason for Mods to Unban: I'm Not so much looking for an unban but there isn't a thread to change ban reason which I'd call my primary objective here. Realistically, I didn't harass anyone. At least that's the conclusion I've been forced to come to because of the lack of clear definition of harassment within the motd. Using the harassment definitions used by google and facebook, I didn't do anything remotely similar to harassment. Harassment to google is "aggressive pressure or intimidation", and facebook has a bigger list that, I assure you, does not apply to what I did. The word the ban request most likely meant was trolling, which I absolutely did. Here is the proof of the trolling (https://imgur.com/a/pl2M86X). I didn't harass anyone because I only messed with people who took the bait, with the exception of Scoovie who didn't acknowledge me until he eventually greeted me, at which point I let him alone. I reckon that the harassment section of the motd should probably be expanded on a little bit, but that being said I'm not of a mind that what I did was necessarily worthy of a perm. That's probably best left up to the big wigs with the ! commands though, so I'll press onward. I said at the beginning of this text that I am not necessarily looking to be unbanned here, and while that is the truth, I would certainly appreciate some consideration for an unban here. I trolled and called bounties, and even if we assume that warning is a one and done thing, persisting even over years, I should be looking at around a week for trolling (though it could be argued that given my past of consistently trolling to some small degree more harsh measures should be taken), and less than that for bounties. If, on the other hand, these multiple offenses do not carry over many months, I should be slain for one round, warned, and gagged/ muted temporarily. What is most important to me here is that the reason for my ban is changed to "Trolling/Bounties" as it is a more accurate depiction of what happened.
Have you been banned before (Link relevant threads): yes, but the threads are on old forums.
Other: If you fellas want to ban people for messing around for stuff similar to what was going down, define harassment and add in something along the lines of "asking questions that don't need to be asked, especially using admin chat". While I am quick to break rules, I appreciate well written, clearly enforced rules. When either the definitions or punishments for rules are missing in their explanation, they become less valid and weaker. This also stands when rules are used as a weapon to ban people who annoy the staff instead of as a bulwark against players with malicious intent. I don't believe that what I have done is deserving of a permanent ban, but I also acknowledge that that is not my call to make.
