01-28-2020, 07:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-28-2020, 07:47 PM by Mother Nuru..)
Red text is mine.
To sum up what I said above.
I've asked so many times on what to fix, ideas on how to fix, etc.
Instead of that, I get you guys bitching at me, complaining because nothing gets done, etc.
Just because I'm an admin doesn't mean I know it all, or am an all-fix.
I need help sometimes too. I ask for it. I just never get it from you guys.
(01-27-2020, 11:50 PM)matt_st3 (Strongrule) Wrote: Admin
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/Thr...the-Admins
Not that its what I would have said, as I've been thinking on this piece alone for a week, but it brings up a valid point. Admins typically rotate who is active because a couple are this week, a couple others have hours the next, but with the current setup no admins or above have decent hours. Yes they try to be active on the forums and discord, but even then looking at the activity there its a shadow of what was claimed in the past. A decent chunk of my own time was inactive by that rule. For the most part that wasn't contested, whether people thought the voting/admins in general were still fair and informed while inactive or its just now reaching a head among other issues I cannot say. I can say that the team at the time tried its best to ask what they didn't know, or at times would recuse themselves from votes. Not always as I still voted on a lot myself throughout, and not that it is a defense, but I know the team tried as a whole. Obviously there were still conflicts and individuals acting on their own power, but that's a different discussion.
The thread touches on a much larger issue. We can't fix their irl problems, but the fact that no admins and maybe 1-2 mods have decent activity has lead to the other problems of the server. Can it be helped? Somewhat, but the effect is cyclical. The job burns out the admins which leads to more and larger issues, which burns them out more...
I don't have a solution, or a civilized rant for this. I have only my personal thoughts on individuals. And since we cant really replace with the current mod pool that's not even a possible solution, even if it were to be considered. The Admins should be responsible enough to know when to rely on other opinions. Not saying one decision was right or wrong, but overall.
Admins are responsible for more than just their server, they are responsible for the community as a whole. While they should be beholden to the community, they also must perform the job as they see fit within the rules they are given. There is little to no guidance here, as they are effectively the highest rank actively engaging the community. There will be mistakes made, and the community should know this on the front end. These mistakes should be addressed, yes, but in a civil manner. Biting at the admins will only make it worse. August was proof and likely partial cause of that decline. How that was handled by both admins and community was a step in the wrong direction. Again I wont go into detail, but we should avoid hive minding on either side for the above issue. It helps no one.
I myself am guilty. I will never deny this. I will say as soon as my hours drop below 10, I don't vote or do anything beyond what a moderator could do. (Ban requests, closing threads that are getting out of hand, etc.) As you said, there's zero guidance here, and admining here is unlike any server ever. You are thrown to the wolves. Personally speaking, I have made several mistakes, large and small. I do my best to be what everyone wants, but at the end of the day, I cannot please everyone and I'm aware of this. What you mention here, about biting the admins, has recently become a large issue with me. I know what happened in august was handled wrongly and I do take blame for that, and I am aware of my mistakes there. But nobody will let me learn or let me be with that, nor other small or large things here. Instead of talking with me, or to me, or anything at all, they bite. They yell at me, they blame me, they beat and berate me down until I am at the point I am right now. I come home and dont even want to look at gmod. This used to be my happy place, to relax, and hide from irl shit I'm going through and now I don't have one. I just want everyone to know, if you talked with some of us more, things would go better not only for you guys, but us. You have no idea how much strain is placed on us in this position. None. I want this to be a wake up to everyone. One of your most calm and level headed admins has done nothing but teeter on the line of resignation for two weeks straight now because everyone does nothing but shit on us, when we do what we can. I know we fuck up. And I am really good about admitting when I do. It's just so much easier if you talk to us rather than treat us like dogs. Because that's all I've had for three weeks rn.
Dink
Descend into the masses and be a benevolent god.
But seriously we've talked a little bit. Consider the sectioned positions, it may help alleviate some issues. But something will need to be done, and I don't know exactly what it is. As owner, the server and community aspects are ultimately up to you.
Also consider getting to know at least the admins 1 on 1. You need to understand and trust anyone you have as admin and communication does wonders to solve issues, whatever they be. Idk, maybe you check discord on nights, or spend a certain time during the weekends to look into server issues.
There are a few suggestion threads that would be a good start to look at with at least two issues you will need to have a say on that I could find on the forums:
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/For...tions-Help
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/Thr...alk-Thread
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/Thr...the-Admins
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/Thr...nths-later
As for you dink, I love you, i've adopted you as my son. I know it's hard to be aroudn with work, school, and a social life, and a girlfriend. All I want from you is just an hour a day, or one day a week devoted to us around here so things can be done. If you can't find people you trust that can do the things you can. Or teach people you trust to do so. TTT has Juan, and and all PH has is you. Both of you are really dead right now due to irl things. I get that, but if you don't want the server to die, we need someone, anyone, to be able to fix things that die or break. Someone to help coach admins on what to do, when to do, etc. Like you expect us to do with the staff. Please. Because I personally don't know how much longer I can keep struggling with people shitting on me for not being able to fix things.
To sum up what I said above.
I've asked so many times on what to fix, ideas on how to fix, etc.
Instead of that, I get you guys bitching at me, complaining because nothing gets done, etc.
Just because I'm an admin doesn't mean I know it all, or am an all-fix.
I need help sometimes too. I ask for it. I just never get it from you guys.