02-03-2020, 10:27 PM
(02-03-2020, 10:05 PM)Laced Xanax Wrote:(02-03-2020, 09:39 PM)Mr Voss Wrote:-snip-
Being toxic towards other toxic people doesn't negate itself. Trust me, I learned the hard way.
You're ignoring the fact that changes have been made. More attempts have been made to make positive changes. Wasn't ignoring the fact that changes have been made, as a matter of fact MANY changes have been made in the TTT server as of late to make it MUCH better than it was when I originally started playing back in 2018.
Nobody asked for stricter rules, that I can recall. What WAS asked is that the TTT admins treat people without bias. Not even just the admins, but the staff team as a whole. The thought process was quite simple. Nobody is above the rules. I wish that was true that nobody is above the rules, but far too often there's been favoritism as you state in your next paragraph. It is what it is really, and I commend you for owning it.
I can recall at least 11 different times where I've exploited, mass RDMed, said some no-no words, and broken pretty much every rule under the sun aside from hacking. I was only warned/punished twice. I did these things with staff on, including hardcore trolling with 4 TTT admins on.
I wasn't punished because I am a friend of almost every single staff member on the server. I am a walking example of favoritism.
That's just one example of simple things that have not been acted upon.
It's blatantly false and ridiculous to suggest that we do not know what we want. We know what we want. We can't get what we want. To imply that everything is the community's fault and it's a "world against me" type of situation (me, of course, being the staff) is only partially true. Take responsibility for your part. Maybe you do know what you want, but knowing how to get there within reason is what is more so out of reach. That may have been a better way to state it.
Which, by the way, none of this even applies to PH in my eyes. Which means you aren't at fault for anything.
I play on all server in the community, given only PH and DR on my main account. My secondary account I have played many hours with a lot of those on TTT and have enjoyed majority of my time there. My initial intent was not to point fingers, the idea was to find a stable ground in which to resolve the problems at hand with the resources we have. TTT is a really fun crazy game type, and if we as a community can work the bugs out it would be even better.
(02-03-2020, 10:05 PM)MilkManFromMars Wrote:(02-03-2020, 09:39 PM)Mr Voss Wrote:=snip=
IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUT OR GIVE MEANINGFUL INSIGHT, THEN SIT THERE AND KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AS THE ONLY THING PROBABLY COMING OUT OF IT IS UNEDUCATED RUBBISH FROM A TRASH BIN ANYWAY.
Wow, I don't even play and I can tell you how much of an ignorant post this is. I'm gonna do my best to debunk as much of this as I can from top to bottom. First, people ask for specific rules so it can be determined what is okay and what is not, so that the rules can not be suddenly changed and altered on a whim as we have seen. Specific and strict do not go hand in hand. You ask for what we think would fix the issue, yet then brush over the actual points we make in the most strawmanned argument I've seen since 2016 politics. People could care less if someone holds the title of co owner, they (the players) want change and communication. They want clear rules, real feedback, and active help. The absence issue has been addressed as well in recent posts, if you bothered to read them then you'd know that, but you all brush it off as someone being upset about this or the other. I already spoke a little about how the title co owner does not matter, and I personally do not come from the day when there were active co owners, but I can see where a closer line to dink would feel like a more active line of communication for community issues. That's the whole bit, addressing community issues. (also golden to mention the cycle of toxicity, maybe we should address it again? People seem to be thinking too critically nowadays.) Active staff? This is by far the most ignorant thing in this post. Note I say ignorant, as the lack of knowledge, because I firmly believe you didn't bother to look into the issues before making this post.
A lot of this spurs from the staff. The voting is absolutely biased and broken. It's addressed well in Porky's "abuse thread on the admins". When people try to join and help and get denied with a "not fit" as their reason, then they seem to find it a lost cause. People don't know what the admins want, and admins don't know what the people want. It is such an uninvolved and stagnant system. If we didn't care about the community we wouldn't make an effort in the first place to make suggestions to make it better, you should know that. You don't seem to know anything about why these posts are being made, and to make this post pretending that you know everything is such a rude and careless thing to do. But I'm not the kind of person to just straw man and claim someone just wants chaos.
As a (not so) wise man once said "IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUT OR GIVE MEANINGFUL INSIGHT, THEN SIT THERE AND KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AS THE ONLY THING PROBABLY COMING OUT OF IT IS UNEDUCATED RUBBISH FROM A TRASH BIN ANYWAY. " (Fixed it for you since you left out the important part)
NOW WHAT YOU POSTED IS MORE CLEAR. All the other stuff seemed like fluff.
To respond to you a bit though, I do know what's going on now do I know it as deeply as the more active TTT players more than likely No. The Idea was to get a CLEAR message of what YOU being the players really want. Not only that but to understand, what is your solution.
Total reform of the staff? Just clean slate it?
This is a possibility, but I imagine the soonest that could happen would be summer time when Dink would be more active.
I appreciate your responses, both of you.