05-03-2020, 02:29 PM
(05-03-2020, 10:36 AM)[pink] Pixie Soldier Wrote: So these issues have been discussed many times at length and opinions are always divided. We try to make things as fair as possible and also make things fun for everyone too. It’s a difficult balance. When I first joined I would look at others spots and think wow how did they do that? That motivated me to get better and more inventive with my spots.
However it does irritate me when people constantly hide as a tiny part of a prop or try to bend the rules. Personally I mix it up depending on who is on the server. If I’m on with a lot of new players I will try and survive as the biggest prop in a ridiculous place, if our seasoned players are on then I’ll choose my more complicated spots.
If we micro manage this issue too much it will take a lot of the fun out of the game and also makes it more difficult to staff. We use the spots list as guidance and we will also ask for opinions from each other if we aren’t sure. Will we get it right 100% of the time...no. Do we try to keep things as fair as possible...yes.
(05-03-2020, 01:11 PM)Abdel Wrote: Prop hunt should be a clear and straight forward game, props should be fair in how they hide and how the player should interpret what's legal and illegal to do. You keep saying that a certain upper staff told you some of your questionable spots were ok and that was @"Nuru" . This advice must either be dated or recent. I was shown what you were doing with the ladder and that was a big no. Those little hinges that are part of the prop are just around the size of what the peg leg of the blue chair would be. People shouldn't have to hide their props in the walls to begin with. Especially those props with broken hitboxes of rotation. This is only possible because of the prop menu letting you turn into it next to the walls. Prop sense is easy to get. My best advice is to think about spots if the prop menu didn't exist. And also think of the size of the prop, it's common sense that if you're only showing a peg of a big prop and the rest of it is in the wall, then something is wrong. Seasoned players will probably find you, but new players won't even know the prop menu exists. Even if they are told it's capabilities, most will think that wall hiding is cheap.
Someone not being able to find me does not make me illegal though. Many new players do not have the jump pack. Does that make all parkour spots illegal because some people can;t get to someone? No. They have to spend time and effort to find that player just like Regulars, Donors and staff have spent time getting good at the game.
I do think about all that. And just like Pixie said, I used those spots when staff or regulars and donors are on the opposite team.
My prop was visible and shootable. beyond that its a matter of being fair, and I believe I was being fair. And I was asked to expose my prop more, and I did. If people aren't free camming then they may not see the prop from the proper angle and just accuse someone of being illegal, when screenshots show that I was fine.
But the part that concerned me more was that the situation wasn't approached properly. I was called out publicly instead of being messaged. If people have an issue with a spot someone uses, they should message staff and not make it public via chat or voice chat especially if they aren't staff.