[TheUltraFish]

Pixel hunting: where the prop hides only show a few pixels showing if only just a pixel showing and trying to justify its legality constantly. This has lead to a few props being highly criticized for being used due to their ability to be abused like the blue chair and knife or has caused some props to be banned on any map they are on like the telephone and muffler.

So this part is what I particularly want to address. The thread from @OverwatchJunky about the legality of the ladder. Are we banning that stupid ladder prop?

Jetpack rule (in illegal spots list): the player who uses a spot only reachable by a jet pack must remain killable by a person who does not have a jet pack and has only standard weapons

With this rule I think there are spots that before were legal but due to the prop menu should come into question. For example on top of the little AC box outside on restaurant, I have been able to not get killed even with grenades and explosves from ghosters and still can be shot only if you have a jetpack (when I'm next on I will show you because it's hard to explain).

Not the point of the thread

but I should answer probably.
I hope to not ban more props, the props currently fully banned on server either have very messed up hit boxes or are easily messed with to be fully in the mesh of props like the phone, and the muffler. The only reason the blue chair is not on there is because how common it is on many maps.

I know of the spot you speak of and it is possible to be killed there without a jetpack though difficult. Sometimes the prop menu can make this even more difficult if even possible so you would just have to be careful when using it.

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The only problem that I foresee with what is being said is how Trusted would handle this lacking the slay command. I do agree that a forceswap wouldn't accomplish much of anything, if anything people may try and exploit that. I do like more straight to the point punishments after a single warning as the people doing this have been around long enough to have an idea of how things are done.

The way they would do that is probably by a double forceswap. One to slay the player, the next to put them back on the same team.

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Does it sound like a huge pain in the ass to actually catch in action? Yes. Does it sound like an even bigger pain in the ass to gather evidence for? Hell yes.

It sounds like it sucks a lot logistically, but if it DOES happen, staff should have the ability to punish for it as ghosting. Also, damn, people are REALLY getting desperate for that dopamine hit from killing props nowadays..

I have to agree with Nuru on this. It is generally pretty easy to spot because the individual doing it has been around for awhile so they are like a giant woody player model with a sombrero horse head in the background convienantly getting the kills while awkwardly following around the cheaters.