09-06-2020, 04:55 PM
(09-05-2020, 11:20 PM)Cyrus Wrote: After reading guidelines, I think it's honestly VERY strange how this server treats punishments regarding RDM in comparison to EVERY single other punishment
For those who don't want to go through the document, here's the ban escalation for other punishments
False Reporting/Lying in Reports:
Warning, Slay, Slay, Kick, Ban
MetaGaming/Teaming:
Waring, 12 hour ban, 1 day ban, (discretion beyond this), Teaming:2 week, perma
Ghosting:
Warning, 1 week, 2 week, (discretion beyond)
"Severe Ghosting":
2 Week, perma
Mic Spam:
Short gag, round gag, kick, 1 day bam
Hacking:
Perm
Racism/Sexism/Derogatory Language:
Warning, Warning / gag full round, day ban, (discretion beyond)
Exploiting:
Warning, warning + kick, 1 day ban, 1week+ ban
Trolling/Flaming/Harassing
Warning+Gag, 1 day ban, 3 day ban, 1 week or perma ban
And.. here's RDM ban escalation:
One slay, 2 slay, Perma ban (shorter ban for rdm and leave for some reason, yet no variation on punishment for "mass rdm")
There are a few more punishments for different types of minor griefing (not related to rdm) but those are all more minor issues/punishments.
My main confusion with this is that some grief/minge that could honestly be considered less damaging than a bit of RDM has much more room for punishment and room overall. Someone continually ghosting is far more damaging than an RDMer, and yet the punishment is far less severe? Same with metagming and teaming, and micspam which arguably affects far more players, or maybe even the fact that being racist or sexist affords you far more chances than killing someone? I don't know about you but it's a bit strange that punishments are more harsh on someone who RDMs than someone who wants to continually say the n word, be misogynistic, or harass someone.
And no, I'm not saying that all other punishments should be scaled up and RDM should become similar to the current punishments. I'm just saying that I think it's not very great that one of the most common forms of rule breaking is the most heavily punished and has very little overall escalation in terms of banning. I think that the escalation should be similar or match what currently exists in the rules for all other rules. If banning someone for 1 week or 2 weeks for ghosting/teaming/harassing gets the job done and will reduce griefing, why wouldn't a 1 week or 2 week ban for RDM/Mass RDM fall into the same situation? If someone wasn't going to rejoin after their initial temp ban, then it'll most likely get the same job done as a perma ban while allowing players who WANT to actually play the ability to come back without having to wait for a ban appeal, post on a forum, etc, especially when all other punishments don't really require that.
Either you're not reading it right, or you're being intentionally misleading.
One RDM = One slay, Two RDMs = Two slays, Three+ RDMs = Mass RDM = Permaban (except in rare cases where the staff member handling it will choose to give out the appropriate number of slays instead of a ban, calling in the staff discretion mentioned earlier)
The punishment for moderate ghosting is first, a warning, then a 1-week ban, then a 2-week ban, then a permaban. Severe ghosting is a 2-week ban, then a permaban. How is that less severe than the punishment for RDM? If what you said was true, I'd ghost all the time just for the hell of it because I know all I would get is a slay.
Metagaming is a warning, 12-hour ban, day ban, and from there, it's up to the banning mod/admin on what to do. Teaming is a 2-week ban right off the bat.
My point here is that the punishments for just about anything else are definitely more severe than the punishments for RDM. I do agree with Mass RDM becoming a 2-week ban, mostly because it doesn't appear a lot of the staff have the mental capacity to differentiate between accidental and intentional Mass RDM.
Regardless of anything said above, I really don't think it's fair to call for a change to the Mass RDM rule after you were personally inconvenienced by a completely justified ban.