11-14-2020, 01:51 PM
This response is generally only related to the subject at hand here - Captain Price's behavior towards players on the server, with an emphasis on such interactions with female players. I won't be addressing his current permaban in this post, I believe I've already covered it in the other thread. I'm rethinking my thoughts on that thread though, and may adjust my position.
I have had the distinct displeasure of witnessing and dealing with Captain Price for the issues which Burb has cited here in this thread. I personally have added three warns to the user, on the respective dates of October 31st and two warns on November 5th for separate incidents. I have included a photo below showing the times, dates, and reasons for the warns which I placed on Captain Price. I will explain these further.
![[Image: captain-price-warns.png]](https://i.ibb.co/6HmPjqj/captain-price-warns.png)
The first warn was on October 31st. That, however, was not the first time I became aware that Captain Price had been sending inappropriate messages to female players. Burb had made me aware of Price's creepiness before this date and had sent me photos of such. But she expressly told me that she did not wish to make a big deal of it and asked me not to intervene. This left a bad taste in my mouth at the time, but I did as I was asked.
The weird and kinda sexual private messages continued to be sent to Burb though, and he also targeted her via voice and text chat. I also noticed that this didn't seem to be directed only towards Burb, but towards female players in general. I asked via private message another female player if she too had been being sent creepy private messages by Price, and she confirmed that she had. It was at this point that I decided it was appropriate to add the first warn to Captain Price. Again, this was October 31st.
Burb mentions that TTT staff should have been made aware of Captain Price being warned for harassing women. And this point is important - because I too am a little confused why certain staff members are feigning ignorance here.
I have no intention of "leaking staff chat" but I will post a photo from our staff chat which only shows what I posted on October 31st, with the photo evidence that I attached alongside such warning excluded in order to protect the identities of the people who reported Captain Price.
![[Image: captainpricecreep.png]](https://i.ibb.co/hf29FSs/captainpricecreep.png)
I immediately made the staff aware of the problems with Captain Price after adding the first warn to him, which was two weeks ago today. Now I get that some staff members may have missed this, but all it takes is a search of his name in the Discord chat to make yourself aware.
I also believe that my warning is extremely clear as to the behavior that Captain Price needed to cease. He cannot feign ignorance of such a warning, and frankly, no one else can either.
The second warn added to Captain Price on November 5th is actually one that isn't related to his harassment/creepiness towards females. Rather, Captain Price asked a very well respected and kind player on the server if "he was special" and tried to proceed further along this line of questioning/commenting. This one genuinely angered me and I made such anger known via voice chat that day. In fact, Burb took a video of this incident and posted it in our staff chat. So yes, there is evidence of this incident as well. So not only does Captain Price's problems include weirding out/being creepy to female players, but he is also just insulting to male players as well.
The third warn was added to Captain Price by me as well on November 5th. I learned that several staff members besides myself had also talked to Captain Price about his inappropriate behavior towards female players in the intervening days between my first warn and November 5th. But I didn't add a warn simply going off the word of other staff member and their past warnings. Rather, I only added this warn after witnessing him make several sexualized queues in a row, "dedicating" them towards female players who had so clearly not asked for such a dedication. Again, I will not state who the female players were in order to protect their identities and privacy, but I took photo evidence of such incident. Burb as well has video evidence of this, as she has so stated. The fact that other staff members had been talking to Captain Price about his behavior only made this incident, in particular, more serious to me.
That's the crux of my post, but that doesn't mean I disagree with the other points raised. The player harassment is just the thing that stands out to me the most (and infuriates me the most) with Captain Price.
I also can clearly see that Captain Price has a problem with accepting responsibility for his actions. In the abuse thread that was posted on him, he was aware of the accusations against him, but chose to simply respond and downvote Burb's post by stating "In Burb I don't trust" when she attempted to make him aware of the thread. He then failed to actually respond to the accusations in a substantive manner for several hours thereafter.
And in the current unban request for the mass rdm ban, he has continually failed to accept responsibility for his actions. Each response he adds he tries to claim less and less responsibility - that it was only a game, that everyone was consenting, that he didn't know better, etc. There is no apology or admission of guilt.
I have had the distinct displeasure of witnessing and dealing with Captain Price for the issues which Burb has cited here in this thread. I personally have added three warns to the user, on the respective dates of October 31st and two warns on November 5th for separate incidents. I have included a photo below showing the times, dates, and reasons for the warns which I placed on Captain Price. I will explain these further.
The first warn was on October 31st. That, however, was not the first time I became aware that Captain Price had been sending inappropriate messages to female players. Burb had made me aware of Price's creepiness before this date and had sent me photos of such. But she expressly told me that she did not wish to make a big deal of it and asked me not to intervene. This left a bad taste in my mouth at the time, but I did as I was asked.
The weird and kinda sexual private messages continued to be sent to Burb though, and he also targeted her via voice and text chat. I also noticed that this didn't seem to be directed only towards Burb, but towards female players in general. I asked via private message another female player if she too had been being sent creepy private messages by Price, and she confirmed that she had. It was at this point that I decided it was appropriate to add the first warn to Captain Price. Again, this was October 31st.
(11-14-2020, 06:02 AM)Burb Wrote: I genuinely think TTT staff should have been made aware that Captain Price WoGs was warned for harassing women and that maybe they should have taken note of how he interacted with them because it is incredibly ridiculous that no one probably has any evidence of this now other than he said/she said and the community is completely biased. So if anything let this be the start of a paper trail for whenever you guys unban him for mass rdm. Outside of the clips staff has there is probably nothing. So great! Also as per the staff guidelines I feel that after his second warn for harassment, Captain Price WoGs should have received a temp ban.
Burb mentions that TTT staff should have been made aware of Captain Price being warned for harassing women. And this point is important - because I too am a little confused why certain staff members are feigning ignorance here.
I have no intention of "leaking staff chat" but I will post a photo from our staff chat which only shows what I posted on October 31st, with the photo evidence that I attached alongside such warning excluded in order to protect the identities of the people who reported Captain Price.
I immediately made the staff aware of the problems with Captain Price after adding the first warn to him, which was two weeks ago today. Now I get that some staff members may have missed this, but all it takes is a search of his name in the Discord chat to make yourself aware.
I also believe that my warning is extremely clear as to the behavior that Captain Price needed to cease. He cannot feign ignorance of such a warning, and frankly, no one else can either.
The second warn added to Captain Price on November 5th is actually one that isn't related to his harassment/creepiness towards females. Rather, Captain Price asked a very well respected and kind player on the server if "he was special" and tried to proceed further along this line of questioning/commenting. This one genuinely angered me and I made such anger known via voice chat that day. In fact, Burb took a video of this incident and posted it in our staff chat. So yes, there is evidence of this incident as well. So not only does Captain Price's problems include weirding out/being creepy to female players, but he is also just insulting to male players as well.
The third warn was added to Captain Price by me as well on November 5th. I learned that several staff members besides myself had also talked to Captain Price about his inappropriate behavior towards female players in the intervening days between my first warn and November 5th. But I didn't add a warn simply going off the word of other staff member and their past warnings. Rather, I only added this warn after witnessing him make several sexualized queues in a row, "dedicating" them towards female players who had so clearly not asked for such a dedication. Again, I will not state who the female players were in order to protect their identities and privacy, but I took photo evidence of such incident. Burb as well has video evidence of this, as she has so stated. The fact that other staff members had been talking to Captain Price about his behavior only made this incident, in particular, more serious to me.
That's the crux of my post, but that doesn't mean I disagree with the other points raised. The player harassment is just the thing that stands out to me the most (and infuriates me the most) with Captain Price.
I also can clearly see that Captain Price has a problem with accepting responsibility for his actions. In the abuse thread that was posted on him, he was aware of the accusations against him, but chose to simply respond and downvote Burb's post by stating "In Burb I don't trust" when she attempted to make him aware of the thread. He then failed to actually respond to the accusations in a substantive manner for several hours thereafter.
And in the current unban request for the mass rdm ban, he has continually failed to accept responsibility for his actions. Each response he adds he tries to claim less and less responsibility - that it was only a game, that everyone was consenting, that he didn't know better, etc. There is no apology or admission of guilt.
