[Rox5tar01]

"the admins have unbanned so many no no peeps, so I should be as well"). 

I don't like how this was said. He said other people who did worse successfully appealed, so he should try as well, not so he should also just be unbanned. Those are vastly different statements, one assuming an outcome, and the other simply saying "Oh, if thing A happened, thing B is also a possibility"

I mean, in a literal sense yes you are correct. However, I think it's fair to see it as "if someone is appealing their ban, that means they believe that their ban should be overturned". I suppose it is possible to appeal without actually thinking the appeal will go through, but I would think that's kinda silly to even appeal in the first place in that case if you aren't confident in your own case. Why would you appeal if you don't believe you should be unbanned?

"the admins have unbanned so many no no peeps, so I should be as well"). 

Also, just to nitpick more, acknowledging someone is changing is fine. In an unban appeal, if someone brings up change, it can be assumed to be positive change just given the setting. And, very very very often, if someone talks about "how" they've changed or what steps they have been taking to change in their appeals, people accuse them of trying to play sympathy or manipulate people in other ways to get unbanned, usually that sort of thing is said in private but has been said on posts before as well.

I guess for that, it's an issue of interpretation. While some may consider that kind of explanation to be manipulative and whatnot, I instead consider that showing that it at least there is some level of genuineness to the appeal. If those things are said in private then that's one thing, but I can only go off of what I see in the appeal. To me just saying that "I've changed" and then not providing any more detail comes across as lazy and in-genuine.

Just to clarify, I'm not trying to dismiss your points. A lot of this just has to do with individual interpretation, and I interpret this as a lazy appeal for a pretty long past. For someone who has been banned and unbanned as many times as this for reasons like these, I'd expect a bit more than just "i've changed". Again though, it's interpretation.

[⚡Nash]

I might be the minority here or maybe just the only one but maybe one final chance for Grasse. I remember him on the server and never really noticed him act out of character or harass any members. Not going to lie though, 15 alts is borderline schizo but well see. It's sad and funny at the same time. People can change hopefully he had time to reflect on this since his last ban.

[coco]

i know i dont rlly play anymore but chiming in bc i <3 grasse. yes, he has been banned a bunch, but new year new grasse fr. we gave shaye one last chance and she hasn't caused any trouble (i know she rarely plays but grasse said he rarely plays anymore either), and id be willing to bet that if we give grasse one more chance under similar conditions we gave shaye (start with warn points + next ban is unappealable) it would be just fine.

+1 :D

[Icey]

unban grasse.

[chapman]

In the year 2025, you should unban grasse.


And tiefling, I am going to second what Ryan said. Save that sort of remark for a private message between you two, there is no need for that on a public thread. It's very tacky to do that, as you're making it seem as he doesn't understand anything with that tone. No hard feelings, just that I agree with him entirely on that and calling it as I see it.


Out of grasse's track record, the only real major issue are the alt evasions, and the slur usage.

Things like Grapple Exploiting and RDM are minor infractions that seem silly to hold over his head. It never was Mass RDM, just repeated and RDM & Leave offenses.


+1 for an unban.

[slater]

+1 bro’s just a chill guy, unban

[Wrom]

+1 my king let him back

[grif]

yap yap yap yap yap yap yap

(79 words ain't gonna cut it here slick). 

TLDR: No.

Should’ve kept it like this lil bro ain’t nobody need allat sorry

It’s easier to speak on somebody if you actually know them too “slick” LMAO

+1 grasse just wants to play the game there’s an obvious reason that many alts have been played lmao

[Dinomoto]

yap yap yap yap yap yap yap

(79 words ain't gonna cut it here slick). 

TLDR: No.

Should’ve kept it like this lil bro ain’t nobody need allat sorry

It’s easier to speak on somebody if you actually know them too “slick” LMAO

+1 grasse just wants to play the game there’s an obvious reason that many alts have been played lmao

No need to be that disrespectful

[grif]

mobile version of the forums always does and will continue to fuck me over