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05-04-2021, 12:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-04-2021, 02:51 PM by shaye. Edited 2 times in total.)
Ingame Name: Shaye
SteamID: STEAM_0:0:94159295
Who Banned You: Dong
Reason For Ban: I believe the original reason for my ban was mass rdm and I remember, pretty much what happened, i was being a sweaty nerd, and camped vents and as soon as I got my 3rd kill as an innocent, someone reported me, obviously I knew what I was doing was wrong, I always pushed the limits and generally just made it a harder time for staff which is very immature, and just plain straight up moronic, I also Alted, but since listening to a few players ( loocan, gcubed) I stopped alting, Realizing it was just stupid, and straight up degenerative behavior.
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Length of Ban: Indefinitely
Reason for Admins to Unban: The reason I am asking for an unban is for a few reasons, one is because I have never found a server on another game with a sense of community like I did on dinks, I've met so many cool people, that i'm not afraid to say it i generally got excited to see online and play with, theres a lot of dope people amongst this community, the second reason I feel like I should have a chance to be unbanned, which might seem like a shitty excuse but.... I'm in a much better mental place then where i was when i was playing this server 8 hours a day, I don't care to go into a ton of detail, just know i've been back on track recently. 3rd and final reason i finally realize what I was doing was so fucking child-like, I'm 21 years old and to continue to act like a 14 year old edge lord is just a bad look, I hope y'all can forgive me for my stupid mistakes (:
Have you been banned before (Link relevant threads): Yeah once, for toxicity
Other: All Staff Are Good (: i am better at bhopping then Crab Nickelson.
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Ban thread: https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=12768
I vaguely remember it being related to throwing an incen in the vent in Casino.
The crime here is alt evasion; the mass is long forgiven IMO.
Previous unban attempt: https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=13073
I'm against an unban ATM, I feel alt evasion to the level you took it to just took it too far.
But I also feel anyone can change.
Would you be willing to document privately to an admin all of the ways you alt evaded, accounts, etc.? That would be a good first step in reconciliation.
Because I'm pretty sure your alt accounts are in the double digits.
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I am glad that you at least took the advice of the other people in the community. I believe that you can change. Alt evasion is a bit much, however you have showed the will to change so I definitely second a reduction on your ban. An immediate unban would be irresponsible for lack of a better word. I'm not a TTT player but a permanent ban on RDM seems like a bit much.
-1 on out right unban, +1 on a reduction.
1+ on a reduction with some sort of probation of sorts probably. The way you behaved after the ban was kinda messy at times but I am willing to believe you have changed now. Good luck old friend.
You know what Shaye?
I think you should get unbanned. This seems sincere, and I feel as if people aren't going to look at it that way. I mean, there were people who doubted Zuboba was serious about his apology after making a 7 minute youtube video apologizing to the Dink's staff team, so if that doesn't give you a sign of how stubborn people are here, I don't know what will.
People make mistakes; this is just a gmod server after all, and at the end of the day, it is simply a video game we play to enjoy. Toxicity, in my opinion, can be funny if it's regulated but not everyone agrees with that notion. You stopped alt evading, which is also exactly what Zuboba has stopped doing, and just like I will when he eventually posts the unban, I will advocate for your freedom from oppression.
Free Shaye, as I found him hilarious almost anytime I was on, and I think this community is better with him in it.
+1. Best of luck on your unban!
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+1 to a reduction. I don't remember ever having a bad time playing with you.
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Although Shaye has alt evaded, more than 5 months of being banned and change in behavior is plenty enough for an unban. +1
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Just go ahead and unban Shaye. I don't really think it'll make any difference to make them wait another month, so a reduction just seems unnecessary.
They alt-evaded, sure, but this showed that they really wanted to be a part of our community still. And from what I understand, they often got caught quickly on their alts and were banned fairly peacefully - no repeated mass RDMs on those alt accounts.
Like David already said, everyone makes mistakes and you already have demonstrated that you learned from yours. You have no alt evaded in quite some time, and you appear to be genuinely apologetic.
I don't see the need for all the stubbornness with an unban.
I still believe your first ban for "toxicity" was ridiculous. It was partly based on "donor abuse" which is usually resolved through removal of donor powers, but more so related to your use of the phrase "ASAB" which some people took way too seriously for some reason.
The second ban was for mass RDM, which is something we generally forgive quickly in unban requests with little dispute. Some staff members will even let you sit on the server to serve your three slays rather than jumping to a permanent ban. So when you alt evaded based on this punishment, it really shouldn't be thought of as something that makes you deserving of pariah status. Most likely you would have been unbanned anyways, so your alt evading was just you jumping the gun a little. Not the end of the world.
Just let Shaye return to and play on the server they love already.
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(05-05-2021, 03:34 PM)Prince Nicky La Flama Blanca Wrote: -snip- The way you phrased this makes it seem like you're saying it's fine that Shaye alt evaded since the original ban reason was something that's easily appealable. Apologies if I'm misinterpreting what you said, but would it not make more sense to just appeal the ban itself instead of getting on multiple alts and having to go through this entire process? In any case, the first ban has no reason to be discussed here because it played absolutely no role in the Mass RDM or subsequent alt evasion bans.
Now about the unban. Shaye, I like you and personally haven't had any problems with you. I am fine with a full unban so that you immediately have a chance to show the cringeworthy staff here that you've matured. You seem genuinely apologetic and just want to play TTT, which is something I can totally get behind.
+1 for full unban, there's no logic behind a reduction that I can see.
PS: Jammin, I am still trying to wrap my head around this:
(05-04-2021, 12:36 PM)Jammin Wrote: Would you be willing to document privately to an admin all of the ways you alt evaded, accounts, etc.? There's really only one way to alt evade and it takes all of maybe 5 minutes.
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(05-05-2021, 06:52 PM)i coughed and spit pepsi everywh Wrote: (05-05-2021, 03:34 PM)Prince Nicky La Flama Blanca Wrote: -snip- -snip-
PS: Jammin, I am still trying to wrap my head around this:
(05-04-2021, 12:36 PM)Jammin Wrote: Would you be willing to document privately to an admin all of the ways you alt evaded, accounts, etc.? There's really only one way to alt evade and it takes all of maybe 5 minutes. I guess I meant it more as an execise to see if he was going to be honest about his alt evasion, etc.
I don't really think alt evasion should be forgiveable considering its only been 1-2 months since the last alt.
But again, I feel anyone can change.
what would documentation of all alts to an admin do? Probably nothing, besides allowing us to ban the alts we don't know about.
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